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SoylentRox t1_j4p45bv wrote

Reply to comment by arachnivore in Singularity Mods removed this post about Nick Bostrom defending eugenics by arachnivore

>historically: being black or jewish or gay or any other variation of the human condition that isn't straight and white)

So this is actually false. The disreputable - as in, they are collected from data but are no longer discussed in polite academic company - studies on race and intelligence pretty much all found asians were smarter. Not white people. And for white people groups, subgroups of jewish people were the smartest.

I had a professor of human genetics who was aware of these studies, and his theory was that it was the western languages that gave westerners such overwhelming success for a period of time. It's the "operating system" not the hardware. And our large success with llms seems to suggest this is in fact correct, the hardware doesn't even need to be human!

So actually, no. In his opinion, the ubermensch was a kid from whichever asian subgroup has the highest IQ, with rich parents and growing up in a blue state in the USA... This was the "most successful" combination currently possible.

Also you gotta get real here. These differences are small. Every human is essentially mentally retarded compared to AI, both at tasks existing models are designed to do, and what they will soon be able to do.

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arachnivore OP t1_j4p6jg6 wrote

I don't have the energy to even respond to your bullshit parade of long debunked junk "science". You so confidently proclaim, with zero evidence, a littany of ignorant "facts".

You want to see a magic trick?

I can tell the future!

You're going to produce some "scientific" evidence for your racist bullshit that was rejected from publications NOT because it was riddled with flaws but because the powers that be don't want to acknowledge that melanin makes people dumb. Those papers are going to rely on a metric called "heritance" which you're going to conflate with "genetics" even though wealth has a high "heritance" measure and nobody has been able to find the gene that makes money shoot out of peoples' buttholes!

How did I do?

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SoylentRox t1_j4p75zv wrote

I don't care enough about the subject to know how much was correct and embarrassing vs unscientific. I was explaining that the modern version of it - often pushed by old white scientists - usually finds Asians the smartest and women more intelligent on average but with a tighter distribution. (This got the president of Harvard cancelled for mentioning this knowledge aloud). This makes your understanding of it incorrect.

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arachnivore OP t1_j4p7yu0 wrote

>I don't care enough about the subject to know how much was correct and embarrassing vs unscientific.

Yeah, no fucking shit. Yet you still spout it with supreme confidence and claim that I'm the one who's incorrect. Go figure...

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SoylentRox t1_j4p82rr wrote

I am confident I know what the numerous studies all said. I don't and you don't have sufficient evidence to disprove them or to prove the null hypothesis. (That intelligence isn't heritable)

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arachnivore OP t1_j4pd17f wrote

You haven’t provided a shred of evidence for me to disprove. You’re the one making the claim that “studies all said” something. Which studies? Link ‘‘em and I’ll be happy to knock them down.

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SoylentRox t1_j4qwvnx wrote

>Which studies? Link ‘‘em and I’ll be happy to knock them down.

You are not a rational actor and can't be trusted. You believe without evidence that everyone is equal because that's 'woke'. If it turns out that everyone is not equal you would not be able to accept the possibility and would have to start seeking false explanations.

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arachnivore OP t1_j4u7c9b wrote

Don't tell me what I believe. Provide proof of your claims or GTFO.

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SoylentRox t1_j4u7hln wrote

Go read the fucking original material instead of making bullshit claims because it makes your dick hard to imagine someone losing their career from something they said over 20 years ago.

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