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giveuporfindaway t1_j4tlr4y wrote

Reply to comment by Cult_of_Chad in Why Falling in Love with AI is a Dangerous Illusion — The Limitations and Harms of Artificial… by SupPandaHugger

>I don't understand why this is so contentious, it's not like the people falling in love with AI are going to be missed from the sexual market. They're getting cause and effect backwards here.

This. A large (growing) segment of people are treated like human wallpaper. They are invisible to everyone. If they die nobody will ever know they were even here. They have not existed on anyones radar for decades. Yet suddenly there's a concern that these same people are giving up a life time of casonova dating opportunities?

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KSRandom195 t1_j4ux76s wrote

The real concern is probably the expectations that get set. If “the average woman considers 80% of men below average” then 30% of women won’t find a man up to her standards and will have to lower their expectations if they want a partner. If an AI is considered at least average, that lowering of expectations doesn’t occur as the AI can fill that gap.

And of course, Futurama had an entire episode on this problem.

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Cult_of_Chad t1_j4vvoby wrote

Why should people settle? Instead we should be aiming to give everyone as much morphological freedom as we can. That way we can pick partners based on social and sexual compatibility and just adjust ourselves to be attractive to the person we're pursuing.

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KSRandom195 t1_j4wecsh wrote

Why would you bother pursuing someone and the headache that ensues if you can just push a button to make a robot do whatever you want?

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Cult_of_Chad t1_j4whisv wrote

Some people enjoy dating. Some people want to have children the old way. There's also taste and smell. Most importantly though, some of us don't get off to submissive sex slaves. The idea that I'd want a robot that 'does what I want' is such a cishet dude take. That's the opposite of what I look for in a male and in hardly the only one.

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KSRandom195 t1_j4wze16 wrote

I didn’t even say it’d be a sex slave. Odd how you assume that’s where I was going with that.

It’s more like, I don’t need to get in a fight to get my partner to do the dishes. Depending on how advanced the AI gets maybe we do end up where you end up fighting with an AI partner over who does the dishes. But I imagine that we will end up in a place where you could “configure” your AI partner, which would make it far easier to get along with them. There’s no way you could do that with a human partner.

Yes that would eliminate the thrill of the chase involved in the dating scene. But I’m kind of past that now, and it sounds like a lot of people are. Not to mention the standards being set by women are such that over 30% of them won’t find a partner unless they drastically lower their expectations.

Also, if you really want, I’m sure we could “configure” the AI to not be your sex slave and not just do what you want.

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armentho t1_j4z213u wrote

Because settling usually means lowering unrealistic expectations (like accepting your partner migth lack the best attractive appareance,or be a bit stupid on a topic you like,etc) minor to moderate issues rather than deal breakers that can be dealt with with communication,cooperation and compromise

Not "date the worst possible human being imaginable"

Thats 2 very different outlooks what settling means for some people

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Cult_of_Chad t1_j4z34bv wrote

>Because settling usually means lowering unrealistic expectations

Look, I'm married, I know how it works.

But there's a huge difference between trying to make the best of things you can't change in the here and now. And creating a world where our children maybe don't have to make as many hard choices as we did when attempting to win a mate.

Besides, if it ends up being that humans only have sex with sexbots and our babies are grown in clinics or inside a tree or some shit, that would be fine too. We'll be fine as long as we aim for resilience and growth.

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