drsimonz t1_j48h548 wrote on January 13, 2023 at 10:04 PM

Reply to comment by bjt23 in Don't add "moral bloatware" to GPT-4. by SpinRed

Linux is the dominant kernel by far, I think it's like 90% of servers running it? And of course the billions of Android devices (which are often the only computer in a household). But every single linux desktop is dogshit, and probably always will be, unless they swallow their pride and make an exact copy of either Windows or MacOS. Ubuntu, Raspbian, KDE, Gnome, it's all half-assed "programmer art". My theory is that unlike writing code, UI/UX design cannot be done by volunteers, since it requires centralized authority to keep things cohesive. It also requires impeccable taste, which is infinitely more rare than passable programming ability.

bjt23 t1_j48l9o1 wrote on January 13, 2023 at 10:31 PM

Counterpoint: Windows also has terrible UX.

I agree with your overall sentiment, UX is both important and often neglected.

drsimonz t1_j48milg wrote on January 13, 2023 at 10:39 PM

Hahaha yes it does, 100%. I haven't tried 11 yet so maybe it's even worse now... but as someone who uses Ubuntu 18/20 regularly, there are many levels of terrible. Simply dragging a file onto the desktop, when a file with the same name already exists, literally crashes the desktop and requires a reboot. (Yes I'm sure there's a way to recover without a reboot but it's going to take even longer to figure out). Want to create a shortcut to a program? Or worse, want to change the icon? Hope you're literally a software developer. Yet somehow micro$oft managed to build a UI for this in like 1995.

needle1 t1_j4abhiw wrote on January 14, 2023 at 7:10 AM

At this point, Windows and even macOS have devolved into pretty cruddy UX, but keeps running on massive inertia—which, despite being inertia, has such strong power that few other players can take on them.

te_alset t1_j49ibdx wrote on January 14, 2023 at 2:31 AM

Yet it’s still preferable to macOS.

I have to use a mac for work and I hate it so much. I’m getting carpal tunnel in my left hand from the cmd key. The only way macOS is usable is with keyboard commands.