RavenWolf1 t1_j51qb9k wrote
Sorry our reality can't be as good as virtual reality. You can't be a God/Goddess in our world. You can't say magic words and throw fireballs. You can't have adventures to dungeons and kill goblins. There are no dragons here, elves nor orcs. There are no task to defeat Demon lord nor are there harems for heroes. Our world is antithesis of fantasy word. I want to live in fantasy world.
OldWorldRevival t1_j51r4ut wrote
Heh. I think you should read about what Tolkien was actually getting at with LotR. Especially themes like Sauruman ripping the forests down.
StarChild413 t1_j54sszn wrote
Why does it feel like you'd be disappointed with any real-or-real-seeming fantasy world if it did have things like dungeons, elves and orcs and you had magic but you weren't essentially the main character of some isekai anime who not only has some chosen one prophecy about them but because reasons every hot babe "npc of this world" is attracted to them with the villains just being either tsundere or yandere and the older-but-not-elderly women being MILFs
OldWorldRevival t1_j51rca3 wrote
And... its still all fake in the way that actually matters, with respect to being itself. It's fake struggle, fake effort.
I'm not saying VR is innately bad, but it's just the pursuit of pleasure. Pleasure needs to be balanced.
CubeFlipper t1_j5228go wrote
>And... its still all fake in the way that actually matters, with respect to being itself. It's fake struggle, fake effort.
Fake how? The experience is real, and as far as I'm concerned that's all that matters.
> Pleasure needs to be balanced.
Who made you the moral arbiter of mankind? Your values are not everyone else's values, stop trying to force them on people.
OldWorldRevival t1_j53ylua wrote
The fact of your utility is fake in VR.
Think about the contextual picture, not just the outcome.
RavenWolf1 t1_j55opcr wrote
It is not fake at all. I used to play World of Warcraft a lot and I don't see that experience as fake at all. Everything that happened there affected to me as much as real life things affect. I actually learned valuable skills there too like how to lead because I was raid leader in big raid guild. Lots of social interaction and diplomatic skills was needed there etc.
I value my experience in there. My life there was important for me. Taming pets in some forgotten forest was something you can't do in real world even how incomplete that experience was because lacking of true virtual reality it still was experience. I don't belittle my life there at all.
OldWorldRevival t1_j563b6a wrote
It's a game, that is the context.
Games train you in useful, transferable skills.
I disagree with the notion that one should replace their real life with an unreal life on the internet.
Additionally, I used to play WoW myself, and every time I did, I was always the least healthy and was more unhappy overall than ever.
Which is why I now seek to extract what is so enthralling about games like WoW and pull that into the real world, while not eliminating games or virtual experiences.
Like, imagine if we built ironforge under the Colorado rockies, and linked it up with Khazad dum! Heh. That would be physically possible with artificial superintelligence. Then we could drink beer under the mountain, swordfight and party after a day doing things like crafting real things that fit that environment.
It's just that I think there is real value in the real, and supposing that we are in a sort of matrix only motivates me to want to try to break past a layer in such a matrix.
DarthBuzzard t1_j54ino7 wrote
> The fact of your utility is fake in VR.
If you have godmode and are just flicking your fingers to cast fireballs, then yes that's fake utility, but if you're a virtual performer, artist, architect, educator, developer - then your utility is real because it produces value that people accept in the real world and can help others.
RavenWolf1 t1_j521gap wrote
>Pleasure needs to be balanced.
You are right and that is why stories has ups and downs. I also want my fantasy VR stories to contain that all. You see reality is really boring. Our current era is shit and future even with robot doing all the work there is no meaning but in story adventure there one can find meaning.
One could say that having family is meaning but one can have loving family in VR too.
SurroundSwimming3494 t1_j5444ob wrote
>I want to live in fantasy world.
This sub is really weird.
XO-3b t1_j54b9ke wrote
I think the majority of users on this sub are 12-14
DarthBuzzard t1_j54icl0 wrote
I'd wager most people on this planet (of any age) want to live in a fantasy world.
It's pretty simple really. People want life to be as enjoyable and interesting as possible, and a fantasy would is simply always going to offer infinitely more opportunities for enjoyment and curiosity.
RavenWolf1 t1_j55njgv wrote
There is proof on this. How popular are isekai aka ending up in fantasy world stories in general. They are insane popular genre. And actually basic vanilla fantasy is escapism too and about any other fictional work. We always want to be something else than we currently can be.
XO-3b t1_j56y4nt wrote
Not permanently, escapism is only fun because it's temporary. Believe it or not a lot of people actually enjoy life.
DarthBuzzard t1_j56yj6e wrote
Yes, but as others have mentioned in this thread, a perfectly realistic virtual world has everything the real world has to offer - except actual death and the fear of death in certain extreme activities - and even that could still be rigged up to induce death if you wanted.
You can have plenty of struggle and challenge that you need to overcome in fully immersive virtual worlds, but you also get to reduce that if you want, and get to reap the rewards far more often, and the selection of rewards is far more varied.
Frumpagumpus t1_j552ka3 wrote
i would bet the opposite, most users are probably college educated, and in top 1% worldwide of wealth (when compared to other their age)/education
they also probably skew younger than median age in their countries and male if i were to guess
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