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redeggplant01 t1_j6hk9dj wrote
Communism always imitates but never innovates
ajahiljaasillalla t1_j6hwu2s wrote
Aren't free open source projects examples of good communism
visarga t1_j6jwgm3 wrote
Aren't all generative models examples of good communism? "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs" The AI learns from everyone and then generates what we need on demand.
ajahiljaasillalla t1_j6k1qi5 wrote
But chatgpt etc. are owned by mega corporations. In communism there is only a common ownership. And open source projects are owned by everyone.
Maybe communism works better in online projects than in society as in societies there are people willing to do anything to gain power and the idea of communism is too weak to keep those people out of the power
TheKing01 t1_j6irz2r wrote
No, open source is more of a libertarian model. No one is forced to work on open source.
redeggplant01 t1_j6i1fjb wrote
No, The practice of FOSS development is not a political philosophy but rather a business/distribution model.
Libertarianism is not a political ideology designed around a specific business model like FOSS.
It is framework designed to systematically analyze what actions are justifiable (e.g., the initiation of force/coercion versus consensual exchange).
Apples / Oranges
imnos t1_j6iqfh1 wrote
OSS is literally work performed without the incentive of profit, often purposely for the benefit of others / the greater good.
It's got zero to do with business. Keep grasping.
redeggplant01 t1_j6iqp11 wrote
> OSS is literally work performed without the incentive of profit
imnos t1_j6ir4bq wrote
You have no idea what you're talking about, do you?
redeggplant01 t1_j6irysc wrote
Your inability to prove your point unlike my posts shows you to be ignorant
imnos t1_j6it534 wrote
You didn't prove your point. You proved you don't know the difference between open source software and managed services that are charged for.
redeggplant01 t1_j6iv3z1 wrote
The sources I linked disprove your lie
imnos t1_j6ivet1 wrote
No, they don't. Try harder, lib.
HumanSeeing t1_j6k579x wrote
Hey, here for real. This is exactly the kind of situation where it is helpful to remember that there is no point of arguing with stupid people. Because they bring your down to their level of stupid and beat you with experience.
ajahiljaasillalla t1_j6i1r24 wrote
Sorry I am dumb I got only about half the words you used.
NotASuicidalRobot t1_j6hzo0o wrote
They're not even communist anymore, more like authoritarianism
AllCommiesRFascists t1_j6mcgn4 wrote
They are fascist
redeggplant01 t1_j6i0yjs wrote
> They're not even communist anymore
LOL!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Communist_Party
Communism is authoritarianism, in fact it is totalitarianism ( far left )
NotASuicidalRobot t1_j6i1gqg wrote
I meant communism as in the economic theory, i think china has more billionaires than the us at this point. Also, what a party names themselves hardly matters
redeggplant01 t1_j6i1v4o wrote
Communism was a political system built upon an economic theory by Marx - https://www.amazon.com/Das-Kapital-Critque-Political-Economy/dp/145388632X
>i think china has more billionaires than the us
No, the US has over 2300 billionaires ... China has just over 500 billioniares
Source : https://www.forbes.com/billionaires/
As to names .. the claim that you know what is communism and a government communist party does not is laughable
cloudrunner69 t1_j6i2ryu wrote
Can't people own property in China but not the actual land the buildings are built on and aren't there privately owned business in China listed on the stock exchange? Doesn't really sound like communism to me.
Heinrick_Veston t1_j6ibxok wrote
One of the central principles of communism is that there's no private ownership, which of course in China there is. Their system is just capitalism administered by an overreaching, authoritarian government.
redeggplant01 t1_j6idqfz wrote
> Can't people own property in China
No they cannot - https://stuff.coffeecode.net/www.loc.gov/law/help/real-property-law/china-real-property-law.pdf
cloudrunner69 t1_j6igu13 wrote
>individuals can privately own residential houses and apartments on the land (“home ownership”), although not the land on which the buildings are situated.
Did you even read what you linked? That is exactly what I said.
But seriously. Who the fuck even cares. All these political ideologies are nothing but temporary human stupidity now on the precipice of dissolving into the acids of history.
redeggplant01 t1_j6ih4u4 wrote
No its not ... If someone owns the land you are living on then you are a renter .. nothing more
cloudrunner69 t1_j6ihdp5 wrote
Go away.
redeggplant01 t1_j6ihtmq wrote
Sorry if the truth is inconvenient
cloudrunner69 t1_j6iib5s wrote
Fucking hell it is not communism. So just stop already. Even though people don't own the land people do own the buildings. There are property developers in China who make a fortune renting/leasing to the Chinese people. This is not communism.
imnos t1_j6iqxf6 wrote
> totalitarianism ( far left )
It's not far left. Nazi Germany was totalitarian and they were on the far right. Any left or right wing leader can be a dictator/totalitarian.
redeggplant01 t1_j6irv4h wrote
Yes it since every instance of communism which is far left has been totalitarian without exception
Germans under Hitler had more freedoms than those under communist regimes
Statertater t1_j6iyd0e wrote
Sure, all the germans exept the jewish, black, disabled, etc germans which were gassed in hard labor camps.
The next time you have a thought, let it go
TevenzaDenshels t1_j6nl4bt wrote
Nazi germany wasnt even right leaning. The elite was occultist, anticapitalist and had a totalitarian authoritanian way of dealing with government. This is the problem of dividing everything into left and right.
imnos t1_j6no2b0 wrote
The elite were Nazis, and Nazism itself is literally described as
> It is placed on the far-right of the political spectrum
TevenzaDenshels t1_j6odyds wrote
Fascism was a new thing back then. Nowadays its a meaningless word.
Heinrick_Veston t1_j6ibgqu wrote
The Chinese Communist Party is as communist as the Democratic Republic of North Korea is democratic.
redeggplant01 t1_j6idcqe wrote
Your opinion is debunked by decades of Communist rule in China and the existence of the Chinese Communist Party
Heinrick_Veston t1_j6ifvol wrote
They CCP can call themselves whatever they like, it doesn't make China a communist country.
As I said in another comment, a central tenant of communism is that there's no private property. That's not the case in China, people own houses, companies, cars, and all the other things you'd expect to see in a capitalist society.
China also has the right to inherit, a central bank, a stock market, domestic and international trade - the list of things which are antithetical to Communism goes on and on.
redeggplant01 t1_j6ig0zh wrote
Your opinion is debunked by decades of Communist rule in China and the existence of the Chinese Communist Party - facts
Heinrick_Veston t1_j6ign0c wrote
Which part of what I said is an opinion?
Here's the Shanghai Stock Exchange: http://english.sse.com.cn, is it just my opinion that it exists?
Do you understand what Communism is?
redeggplant01 t1_j6ihd3l wrote
The Shanghai Stock Exchange (SSE) is the largest stock exchange in mainland China. It is a nonprofit organization run by the China Securities Regulatory Commission [ communist government ] - http://www.csrc.gov.cn/csrc_en/c102023/common_zcnr.shtml
Government owned and government run - communism
Heinrick_Veston t1_j6iiut8 wrote
It doesn't matter who owns it, the fact that it exists and that people can privately purchase and own stock of private companies is completely at odds with the concept of communism.
Under communism there is no ownership of land, factories, companies etc, they all belong to the state. There's no share of ownership to be bought and sold, and therefore, there can be no stock market.
redeggplant01 t1_j6ij6dj wrote
> It doesn't matter who owns it,
Yes it does as that is what defines communism ... since the equity market is owned, managed by the state then its communism
Heinrick_Veston t1_j6ikkhr wrote
In a communist country there would be no equity market to begin with.
This is perhaps the third time I've said this, but under communism there is no private ownership.
In China there are many examples of private ownership. Shares of a company is one.
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headypete42033 t1_j6hq8qw wrote
and the whole never being successful and genocide thing...
redeggplant01 t1_j6hukpv wrote
That as well
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