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AsuhoChinami t1_j4x7sf1 wrote

Honestly, despite being a tech-optimistic myself, Luddites bother me a lot less than technoskeptics do. Luddites at least believe in the power of technology, that it's advancing rapidly and will change the world. I prefer that to the technoskeptics "lulz we'll just remain in 2006 forever and you're delusional if you think otherwise LMAO" attitude.

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Yomiel94 t1_j4xplbb wrote

I feel like even here people generally don’t think big enough. If we manage to create AGI with greater than human capabilities, we’ll have basically invented god.

It’s probably impossible to imagine what that could mean.

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Smellz_Of_Elderberry t1_j4yl8d2 wrote

Or the devil.

Ai is a force multiplier. It can improve and degrade things in equal measure.

I'm more positive, but it certainly can create hell, as well as it create heaven.

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Ashamed-Asparagus-93 OP t1_j4z0xfv wrote

Something that should be noted when a point like this is made is the whole merging process

What I mean is many might assume humans will idly stand by as the AI does its thing. I think we'll be more connected and involved, literally and physically

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Bierculles t1_j4zjrfg wrote

That is why it's called the singularity, it's impossible to predict what hapens after the singularity started, it truly is an event horizon on the time axis that we can't even see.

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MechanicalBengal t1_j4znr28 wrote

that understanding won’t stop clickbaiters from creating clickbait, though

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V-I-S-E-O-N t1_j4z9v4v wrote

You believe "we'll have basically invented god" and at the same time comment that 'AI doomers' shouldn't be doomer about it? Alright, you guys are fucking weird. Maybe get the ethics department a bigger space when it comes to AI before you literally like you said, create some kind of fucking devil. The discussions here are never about ethics, always just about how to get there faster and how wrong people are for wanting to slow down.

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luv_ya t1_j50xcyo wrote

Ethics are regularly discussed here from what I’ve seen. Also developing an AGI/ASI does not automatically mean it’ll form into a “devil”. All we’re saying there’s still some level of uncertainty. The problem with even discussing it is that it’s so hard to predict what’ll come out of it, all we can hope for the best. Some might feel it’s not worth the risk but I feel like it considering the potential upside could solve just about every human problem known to mankind if we implement it right.

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thehearingguy77 t1_j51w2gq wrote

Hope for the best? Murphy’s law…’Things left to themselves tend to go from bad to worse’.

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Yomiel94 t1_j518w8x wrote

> at the same time comment that 'AI doomers' shouldn't be doomer about it?

Where did I say that or even imply it..?

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thehearingguy77 t1_j51q6lc wrote

God exists in a reality beyond what can be measured or created by science.

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Yomiel94 t1_j51r26m wrote

I’m rather skeptical of that, but regardless, artificial super intelligence will be so far beyond human abilities that it will seem god-like.

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Gordon_Freeman01 t1_j4zpwm7 wrote

I used to think in a similar way. Today I think it is not possible. An AI is just an algorithm. How are you going to generate an algorithm for everything ? For every possible situation ? It would have to be conscious and that is impossible. Something, that is conscious, has to be built in a certain way, which our current computers are not.

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IcebergSlimFast t1_j50w5q2 wrote

“Something that is conscious has to be built in a certain way, which our current computers are not.”

Remarkable! So you’ve single-handedly solved the hard problem of consciousness? Do tell: is consciousness substrate-dependent? What is the specific architecture that makes it possible?

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Gordon_Freeman01 t1_j51snoc wrote

Thank you, but the honour is not for me. Have you ever heard of the 'Integrated Information Theory of Consciousness' ? And yes, consciousness is substrate-dependent. The mechanism is too complicated to explain it here. But you can read it for yourself. It's an interesting theory.

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