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mindofstephen t1_j6nox0h wrote

95% accuracy, so 5% of the time this software will be destroying peoples lives and academic careers. Imagine getting a false positive, having 80 grand in school debt and then getting kicked out of school for this.

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sharkinwolvesclothin t1_j6oeiwf wrote

Universities can have other punishments for different forms of academic dishonesty besides kicking the student out. In fact, I've never heard of one that doesn't. Also, accuracy is not necessarily the same for positive and negative cases.

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fjaoaoaoao t1_j6oxlb1 wrote

Yep. Especially at that low accuracy, There can be alternative interventions (e.g. resubmission). And perhaps even secondary backup checks. hopefully the detection methods can improve although it is a moving target….

Ultimately it’s better for universities to hire more faculty and look to evaluation methods that are better for students and can’t just be replicated by AI

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raylolSW t1_j6ooe3n wrote

The top ones are know for kicking out for any form of cheating.

Best case scenario, you just automatically fail the subject, but still one single subject is expensive as hell.

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KSA_crown_prince t1_j6oro23 wrote

> having 80 grand in school debt

putting students into debt is a war crime tbh, software/technology is only accelerating the need for these conversations because there are so many lazy psychos in power who want to automate their decisions in the first place

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fjaoaoaoao t1_j6owjf5 wrote

Agreed. Some form of debt is okay especially for high earning fields but shouldn’t be as wild as it is now. Some people’s lives are harmed by debt, and research shows people are psychologically maturing slower. At least there are some pathways for forgiveness.

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qa_anaaq t1_j6ox2xu wrote

Lol 80 grand in school debt. Try 150.

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