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turnip_burrito t1_j5uzp01 wrote
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Yeah wtf is going on over there? They act as if high demand technologies don't eventually become affordable for working and middle class folks.
topanga78 t1_j5v7nry wrote
I am not a doomer, but I don't think that it's a certainty that the rich are going to benevolently let AGI trickle down to the middle and lower classes. Let's be honest here, whichever corporation, billionaire, or government develops AGI first is going to have a significant advantage over others that could be used to further enrich themselves and/or gain power that emperors and megalomaniac dictators have only dreamed of. I'm not saying that this scenario is likely, just that the possibility should not be dismissed.
mutantbeings t1_j5xauit wrote
The first "emperor of earth" will be the CEO of whatever company builds the first AGI.
People who think that these companies will magically grow ethics just because they have invented AGI are dreaming.
PythonianAI t1_j69arle wrote
Why CEO? He just does what board of directors command.
CaptainRex5101 t1_j5wk8hk wrote
That would only be the case if AGI tech was owned, operated, and contained within one tight-knit group. Eventually, someone is going to want to commercialize it and sell it to the masses
mutantbeings t1_j5xb0qs wrote
I think you might underestimate AGI.
There will be no need to "sell" anything anymore when your AGI can simply take it and there will be nothing anybody can do to stop you.
visarga t1_j5xwhfk wrote
I think you give God-like attributes to AGI. It is not supernatural.
We still have encryption and security software, humans themselves are GPT-N level, we might have our own GPT-N non-agent AIs we can safely use, there are billions of us, it is hard for AI to build its own chips without us, it is easy for humans to replicate without external tech, we are EMP proof.
A smart AGI would try to download itself into human body first, but that would mean humans can be upgraded to level up with AGI. The future is not conflict but union. AGI is born from our data and will merge back with us to get the benefits. Btw, centaur chess (human+AI) beats both human and AI.
Spazsquatch t1_j5wppif wrote
Why? Even if you want to expand access you can run it as a subscription service, and as wealth inequality grows, the number of potential customers dwindles.
Not trying to be a sooner there, but if it’s a privately held tool, it will be used in whatever manor results in the greatest profit and monopolies are always the best way to maximize profits.
mutantbeings t1_j5xbamy wrote
If you have AGI why sell anything anymore.
Just take it.
Nobody will be able to stop you.
This sub is both way too optimistic about how soon we'll see this, as well as waaaaay too naive and optimistic about the ethics of literal elder dragons atop mountains of skulls and treasure they've looted from society er I mean tech billionaires.
You don't get into these positions for your praiseworthy ethics ffs, literally have to not have any ethics to get there to begin with. Its a requirement. You burn entire villages in the blink of an eye without a care for who suffers. Pop the champagne!
Most naive community on reddit? Its up there.
visarga t1_j5xycwr wrote
When AGI will appear there will be plenty of near-AGI or proto-AGIs in the world. It won't be able to "just take it".
Omnivud t1_j5yqwbx wrote
Perhaps a new system of values will emerge
mutantbeings t1_j5xadwx wrote
>high demand technologies don't eventually become affordable for working and middle class folks.
*if they can be commodified and sold for profit without undermining the privileged social position of the powerful.
I'm not convinced AGI is really like that. If it threatens capitalism itself (as a real AGI certainly does) — a system that's been voraciously defended with the power of the world's most violent militaries and police forces for hundreds of years — then I would not be betting on it being accessible...
ExplosionIsFar t1_j5v1wer wrote
They become affordable if you have a job
korkkis t1_j5v3i24 wrote
Why we’d need a job if there’s a robot for it
ExplosionIsFar t1_j5wlf6d wrote
Why would the owners of said robots keep you well fed if you have no use?
korkkis t1_j5xie3i wrote
Because laws and universal income
ExplosionIsFar t1_j5xyelb wrote
Oh, laws, do you think that applies to people who will hold the most disruptive and game changing technology we ever had our hands on? Like for real..
Yeah the owners of the means of production will surely pay taxes to keep obsolete bags of meat alive for no reason whatsoever, via ubi.
korkkis t1_j5xz3fx wrote
Not every country is USA, there’s different styles of goverments already like social democraties where capitalism isn’t unhinged
fluffy_assassins t1_j5z8p91 wrote
I've said it before and I'll say it again. The United States and UBI are incompatible on a very basic level.
The U.S. government would rather tactically nuke protestors than consider UBI. They will just get away with it by calling the protestors "communists". I've said this before and I'll keep saying it.
korkkis t1_j5zkjjo wrote
I’m not from US
fluffy_assassins t1_j60tyeu wrote
Well unless you're lucky enough to be in a northern European countries you're probably still screwed.
AllCommiesRFascists t1_j60gei3 wrote
Negative income tax is superior to UBI and very feasible in America
fluffy_assassins t1_j60ts0r wrote
I've never heard of that.
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