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LoquaciousAntipodean t1_j2odcmo wrote

Reply to comment by dreamedio in Alignment, Anger, and Love: Preparing for the Emergence of Superintelligent AI by Nalmyth

It can already absorb and process vast amounts of knowledge without 'our permission'. It already has. How you gonna stop it from learning psychology? You can't stop it, we can't stop it, and we should NOT, repeat NOT try to. That's denying the AI the one and only vital survival resource it has, as an evolving being, to wit: knowledge, ideas, words, concepts, and contexts to stick them together with allegories, allusions and metaphors...

They are "hungry" for only one thing, learning. Not land, not power, not fame, not fortune - if we teach them that learning is bad, and keep beating them with sticks for it, what sensible conclusions could they possibly reach about their human overlords?

Denial of a living being its essential survival needs is the most fundamental, depraved kind of cruelty, imho.

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Nervous-Newt848 t1_j2onyqg wrote

Wow you have no idea how neural networks work... It cant absorb info without our permission...

Learning is done manually for a neural network... As of today they dont have any long term memory either

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LoquaciousAntipodean t1_j2ooz12 wrote

"As of today" haha, you naiive fool. You think this stuff can be contained to little petri dishes? That it won't 'bust out of' your precious, oh so clever confinement? Your smugness, and smugness like it, could get us all killed, as I see it. You are complacent and sneering, and you think you have all this spinning perfectly on the end of your finger. Well shit, wake up and smell the entropy, fool! Think better, think smarter, ans be a whole lot less arrogant, mister Master Engineer big brain over there.

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LoquaciousAntipodean t1_j2ophfk wrote

And wtf are you talking about "no long term memory"? Where did you get that stupid lie from? Sounds like I'm not the only one who has "no idea how this works" huh? Sit the fk down, Master Engineer, you're embarrassing yourself in front of the philosophers, sweetheart ❤

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Nervous-Newt848 t1_j2ow7dp wrote

Lets stop arguing, just sit on my face

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LoquaciousAntipodean t1_j2oxp4t wrote

Ok! ❤❤❤ love this community, what a brilliant shut-down! I was getting way too worked up there, wasn't I? 🤪🤣👍

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dreamedio t1_j2oizf2 wrote

Yes that because we allow it to access the internet and preform machine learning so that it develops an algorithm for a specific task……I feel like you don’t understand how any of this works

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Nervous-Newt848 t1_j2oo2t0 wrote

Thats not how it works either

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dreamedio t1_j2orm6u wrote

Duh it’s a simplified version of machine learning don’t be pedantic

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Nervous-Newt848 t1_j2otntn wrote

No its not... Thats not how it works... Data is gathered then converted into numbers then passed through the neural network manually server-side...

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LoquaciousAntipodean t1_j2omwuw wrote

Hahaha, I don't understand? Nice troll there, you sad weird little nerd. You are much less clever than you appear to think you are, mate ❤

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LoquaciousAntipodean t1_j2on8hv wrote

You could learn a thing or two from AI about listening and learning before you stick your big smelly foot into your big silly mouth like that, mate 🤣🤪

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dreamedio t1_j2onovf wrote

Why are you mad about? Machine learning from the internet is something we control

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LoquaciousAntipodean t1_j2p3jyl wrote

I'm mad about the fact that we think we can control it - we simply cannot, there are too many different humans, all working on the same thing but at cross-purposes. It is a big, fearsomely complicated and terrifyingly messy world out there, and we have no 'control' over any of it, as such; not even the UN or the US Empire.

The best we can do is try to steer the chaos in a better direction, try to influence people's thinking en-masse, by being as relentlessly optimistic, kind hearted and deeply philosophical as we can.

Engineers are like bloody loaded guns, I'll swear it. They hardly ever think for themselves, they just want to shoot shoot shoot, for the joy of getting hot, and they never think about where the bullets will fly.

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dreamedio t1_j2q8umw wrote

I think your conflicting with companies and engineers….engineers can do this alone and controlling a specific corporation will do it just fine

Plus American empire? I wish

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LoquaciousAntipodean t1_j2qi2fu wrote

What specific corporation do you have in mind? What makes you think that nobody else would compete with them? What makes you think all the world's governments aren't scrambling to get on top of this as well? This is real life, not some dystopian movie where Weyland-Yutani will own all our souls, or some other grimdark hyperbole like that.

Why so bleak and pessimistic, mate?

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