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ihateshadylandlords t1_j0rb5fz wrote

To me, AGI is just a program with the IQ of your average person. I don’t see how that will lead to a singularity.

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EulersApprentice t1_j0rpi6m wrote

There are other advantages that computers inherently have over people that aren't captured by IQ. For instance, speed, and direct thought-access to calculators and computational resources, and an ability to run at full capacity 24/7 without needing time to sleep or unwind.

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SeaBearsFoam t1_j0sbqxx wrote

Exactly. AGI with an identical level of intelligence and computational capacity as a human would have significant advantages over humans. Like:

Hardware:

Speed. The brain’s neurons max out at around 200 Hz, while today’s microprocessors (which are much slower than they will be when we reach AGI) run in the GHz range, on the order of 10 million times faster than our neurons. And the brain’s internal communications, which can move at about 120 m/s, are horribly outmatched by a computer’s ability to communicate optically at the speed of light.

Size and storage. The brain is locked into its size by the shape of our skulls, and it couldn’t get much bigger anyway, or the 120 m/s internal communications would take too long to get from one brain structure to another. Computers can expand to any physical size, allowing far more hardware to be put to work, a much larger working memory (RAM), and a longterm memory (hard drive storage) that has both far greater capacity and precision than our own.

Reliability and durability. It’s not only the memories of a computer that would be more precise. Computer transistors are more accurate than biological neurons, and they’re less likely to deteriorate (and can be repaired or replaced if they do). Human brains also get fatigued easily, while computers can run nonstop, at peak performance, 24/7.

Software:

Editability, upgradability, and a wider breadth of possibility. Unlike the human brain, computer software can receive updates and fixes and can be easily experimented on. The upgrades could also span to areas where human brains are weak. Human vision software is superbly advanced, while its complex engineering capability is pretty low-grade. Computers could match the human on vision software but could also become equally optimized in engineering and any other area.

Collective capability. Humans crush all other species at building a vast collective intelligence. Beginning with the development of language and the forming of large, dense communities, advancing through the inventions of writing and printing, and now intensified through tools like the internet, humanity’s collective intelligence is one of the major reasons we’ve been able to get so far ahead of all other species. And computers will be way better at it than we are. A worldwide network of AI running a particular program could regularly sync with itself so that anything any one computer learned would be instantly uploaded to all other computers. The group could also take on one goal as a unit, because there wouldn’t necessarily be dissenting opinions and motivations and self-interest, like we have within the human population.

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mocha_sweetheart t1_j0sci4r wrote

Thanks for the thoughts on this topic, also remember it won’t have the human brain’s biases and inefficiencies

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nebson10 t1_j0rs78z wrote

One you make one average IQ computer it won't be long before you can then make an army of them that work 24/7 basically for free. It's the scaling of it that is important.

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LastofU509 t1_j0rv79c wrote

so... we'll have cyber war and ww3 before the timeframe we believe? cool LMAO

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nebson10 t1_j0sckfu wrote

I didn't literally mean an army but you're not wrong

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porcelainfog t1_j0soig3 wrote

We can copy and paste it. It’s not just one human equivalent. You create an army.

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