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lambolifeofficial OP t1_j1ymsc1 wrote

Reply to comment by ilkamoi in ChatGPT Could End Open Research in Deep Learning, Says Ex-Google Employee by lambolifeofficial

Yeah ripping off Google's open code and then keeping theirs closed. Not a good precedent for OpenAI. Still, I have a feeling open source will beat closed eventually.

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ixfd64 t1_j1zqf4m wrote

"Open"AI seems anything but.

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icest0 t1_j1zz5n0 wrote

>I have a feeling open source will beat closed eventually.

no ways that happens. If the open source is so good, just fork it, and add your company's secret sauce.

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treedmt t1_j21925t wrote

Open source code could still win, if the secret sauce lies in a massive closed source dataset.

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lambolifeofficial OP t1_j21hs0d wrote

Elon open sources Tesla and SpaceX tech and yet they're doing better than their competitors

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spottiesvirus t1_j22h1in wrote

Tesla on self driving is far behind waymo and other competitors

SpaceX has no real competitors as the sector is basically kept afloat by nasa contracts and government subsidies

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Artanthos t1_j22jeyz wrote

It wasn’t a lack of effort on Bezo’s side to win those contracts.

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ebolathrowawayy t1_j1zpmyo wrote

I don't see how unless open source figures out a way to distribute training across machines which afaik is incredibly inefficient/impossible right now. It seems that most progress is due to testing out ideas on $100mil worth of hardware iteratively. Oh and also having massive data on a scale that open source will never have access to.

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onyxengine t1_j1zsjhj wrote

Distributed training will get better

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Artanthos t1_j22jjeb wrote

Will it get better faster than the closed systems improve?

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onyxengine t1_j23qkpz wrote

Eventually yes it will become way faster than “closed systems”, because it will be in the cloud on the best machines. Cloud hosting services are clearly incentivized to make distributed training for open source communities affordable and accessible.

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Artanthos t1_j24dri4 wrote

The cloud? That is owned and operated by the companies developing the closed systems?

The best machines? While competing against companies with billions of dollars of dedicated funding?

You need to reevaluate your logic.

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enilea t1_j23164y wrote

Google doesn't release most of their models open source, it just releases some. OpenAI does the same, releases some projects but keeps the bigger ones closed source.

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