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ihateshadylandlords t1_j13ndys wrote

Haptics are WAY behind audio/visual developments for VR. People have referenced Tesla-Suit (no relation to Elon Musk’s company), but it’s $13K and there’s no indication the haptics are even good.

The first company to create high quality haptics for hands and genitals will take in billions. But there’s very little progress in that area.

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Desperate_Donut8582 t1_j144k2d wrote

Genitals??? Neckbeard alert!!!!!

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TupewDeZew t1_j16mu83 wrote

When two people really love each other.....

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Big-Faithlessness573 OP t1_j17krea wrote

Yup, It can be used by couples too who are in LDR or who want to explore their sexual kinks without involvement of any other person.

But in terms of sexual stuff, I imagine it will mostly be used for casual sex with non-sentient AIs by individuals. This will eradicate the involuntary dependency of humans on other humans for sex. With this, sex for fun will be much better than casual sex with other humans.

Imagine organising a huge sex party with non-sentient AIs on a spaceship near a strange planet and doing whatever the hell you want to with them, or living out your extremely taboo fantasies which you do not wanna disclose to other people. After this, sex with other humans will be an option and not a necessity.

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TupewDeZew t1_j17uokp wrote

I've been thinking about this before you thought about this

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Akashictruth t1_j13fja2 wrote

Anything FullDive like Haptics technology is nowhere near consumer-level and the VR market has stagnated after facebook shat it up by buying up everyone and everything to help build their mobile-tier headsets then nuked their stock value, im sorry but youre gonna have to wait a long time to hear anything VR, nobody knows when just definitely not in the near term

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Big-Faithlessness573 OP t1_j13gagk wrote

Hi !

I wasn't talking about FDVR since that is the final step and I acknowledge that it will take some time.

What I was asking about was something like a Haptic suit which is for all of the body (which includes sexual organs).

I read an article about some sort of haptic skin called "Epidermal VR". I tried searching about it's progress but there has been no mention of it after 2019.

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Desperate_Donut8582 t1_j144n0m wrote

Haptics exist but not what you think…..people barely use VR headset I doubt they will catch up with society

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Big-Faithlessness573 OP t1_j1463t2 wrote

That was my question actually. That, does anyone here knows about undergoing development of haptics about various body areas including sexual organs.

For hands, there are HaptX gloves.

For torso, there is bHaptics suit and the Tesla suit.

For skin, I want to know.

For genitals, I definitely and most importantly want to know.

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Desperate_Donut8582 t1_j146gws wrote

Again there isn’t much research into haptics because as I said PEOPLE play games to relax not do a whole marathon in virtual reality so it’s not really a big thing hence it’s not popular for companies to put much effort into it

And genitalis???? Go to the club or pay a prostitute idk

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Big-Faithlessness573 OP t1_j148clz wrote

> Again there isn’t much research into haptics because as I said PEOPLE play games to relax not do a whole marathon in virtual reality so it’s not really a big thing hence it’s not popular for companies to put much effort into it

Okay.

> And genitalis ????

Yup. That is the main thing. No risk of STDs, No risk of unwanted pregnancy, No risk of being secretly filmed and then blackmailed, ability to live out multiple fantasies at once, availability of sex at demand, etc.. There is so much appeal to Virtual Sex using haptics or FDVR. It will remove the involuntary dependency of humans on other humans for sex.

> Go to the club

If only it were this easy to go and get laid.

> pay a prostitute idk

There are tons of issues with this, Legality being the primary one. But still thank you for your response.

Edit : Added the last sentence in the second paragraph.

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Desperate_Donut8582 t1_j148uun wrote

Here we go again with FDVR……no offense but I think this subreddit should be renamed to full dive vr instead of singularity…….am I the only that thinks full dive vr would be a bad idea (that’s if it ever becomes possible)…..imagine if someone just hacks you how are you going to remove that technology…..will you be in that Virtual reality and real life at the same time?

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Big-Faithlessness573 OP t1_j14chao wrote

> Here we go again with FDVR……no offense but I think this subreddit should be renamed to full dive vr instead of singularity…….

Interesting proposition. Since FDVR will be one of the most important technological advances of the future, I think few people might even agree with you here.

> am I the only that thinks full dive vr would be a bad idea (that’s if it ever becomes possible)…..imagine if someone just hacks you how are you going to remove that technology…..will you be in that Virtual reality and real life at the same time?

Nope. Tbh, I too think sometimes of the potential dangers of me being hacked and stuff. But since, it is a mere pessimistic speculation by me, I do not overthink it. I assume, Nobody here can predict even with 50 perecent accuracy about what will happen 10-15 years in the future. If you have been following this sub for the last few months, you will see that the things in A.I are getting faster and unpredictable.

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Desperate_Donut8582 t1_j14few5 wrote

I’m not talking about AI specifically here but About FDVR……..electric cars and stations are already being hacked and they aren’t that mainstream……the most a hacker could do with an EV is crash it but imagine if someone hacked into FDVR cloud system how exactly how you gonna remove your headset?? Short answer you can’t

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TheSecretAgenda t1_j15axls wrote

I've been reading about haptics since the 90s. Much like fusion a technology that is "just around the corner".

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Big-Faithlessness573 OP t1_j17jph8 wrote

Actually, as I mentioned I read about some progress in 2019 with "Epidermal VR". But after that I have not read anything new about it and it has been 3+ years. Thus, I wanted to know if anyone here has any information about other companies developing some haptics for touch.

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Care_Best t1_j17v0d1 wrote

i don't think locomotion or haptics problem for vr will be solved before the era of BCI. my reasoning for this position is that not only are the problems presented by locomotion and haptics hard to solve, but they're not a financially profitable venture. for high end VR, the headset is already seen as an accessory for the more mainstream pc gaming. so you're asking consumers to first invest in a 1000-2000$ gaming machine, a vr headset that ranges from (500$-2000$) but now a treadmill and a suit which will be an additional cost. thats a fraction of a fraction of a market that will demand something so niche. and because there is a very limited player base with this niche accessory, are vr developers even gonna waste the resource to implement support? my bet is on no. to solve the problems of haptics and locomotion, will require huge levels of funding's and a team of veteran engineers to tackle the problems ahead. yet there is no consumer apatite large enough by mainstream appeal to gain the investment required for these problems. futhermore, once BCI technology reach a level of maturity it will surpass anything haptics and treadmills can offer, by offering true full dive. you're never gonna be able to feel water on your skin, or taste the virtual food on your tongue with haptics. you will with a BCI. so do I think you'll be able to buy a haptic suit or a treadmill, yes, there already available today. are they any good. no, and it'll never reach mainstream adoption before BCI becomes available

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