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mjrossman t1_j28xjy1 wrote

look at the boston dynamics android vs the tesla optimus. creating a robot that can perform physical tasks is far from impossible. creating a fleet of robots to replace all the physical tasks done in a nationwide economy is economically infeasible.

the key distinction is which sector of labor is more scarce. if knowledge work in a digital world is scarce, there's more incentive (i.e. investment) to deploy software at scale. if robotics manufacturing in a physical world is scarce, there's more incentive to stockpile the limiting reagent (usually the chips & minerals).

in terms of timeframe, robotics intelligence is accelerating rapidly. look at RT-1, for example. it's clear that the public domain has already adopted the means to operate robotics, at a hobbyist level, on a global scale. there are a plethora of youtube videos demonstrating this. I suspect that RT will be iterated enough within 5 years to include the capability of self-reproduction. by that point it will not be economically infeasible for independent actors with enough capital to procure their own self-assembling factories with one ML model. the limiting factor will be the raw resources for manufacturing enough robotics to do the physical labor of a given niche.

within 10 years there will be a ML model that convincingly operates an android that instructs/outperforms humans in basic physical tasks. that's the trajectory we're on. it is likely that within 20 years, even specialized physical tasks will be done by android-operating models. before then, I suspect that there is a point of no return with androids playing televised sports. by then the form factor will be a nonissue for industrial purposes.

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CesareGhisa OP t1_j291h63 wrote

great explanation, thanks. this is what I was thinking about. I see everybody talks about ai, but robotics is a different game and I dont read many qualified discussions about it in this singularity subredddit. Most people looks like thinking: when we will have agi, the next day all jobs will be gone.

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