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Phoenix5869 t1_j1hv17i wrote

Reply to comment by AndromedaAnimated in Hype bubble by fortunum

OP's view is at least more realistic than what a lot of people in this sub claim (that we are gonna have AGI in 6 years or less, that the singularity is happening by 2045 (i agree we can't know but it's probably not happening by then).). the majority of scientists also agree with him and while I would like to believe that OP is being too pessimistic, he does seem to be more grounded in reality than a lot of people on here.

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AndromedaAnimated t1_j1hvzz6 wrote

The problem is not OP’s opinion. It’s absolutely valid. Absolutely! I actually even AGREE to some extent that the hype is quite over the top.

Personally I think we cannot predict when Singularity happens for now. So I understand where he is coming from.

I just don’t agree with the „holier than thou“ attitude (anymore). He is not presenting any „facts“ except „I know cause I am a scientist“ and „I believe“ while criticising people for doing the same - and that is BAD social behavior. And bad discussion tactics.

And also he leaves out all those posts and comments that provide critical discussion and sources.

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Phoenix5869 t1_j1hxu9g wrote

>I just don’t agree with the „holier than thou“ attitude (anymore). He is not presenting any „facts“ except „I know cause I am a scientist“ and „I believe“ while criticising people for doing the same - and that is BAD social behavior. And bad discussion tactics.

>And also he leaves out all those posts and comments that provide critical discussion and sources.

Yh that is bad discussion tactics, he should be presenting and listening to evidence to support his arguments.

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fortunum OP t1_j1hzjrx wrote

Idk how to be honest. I am not holier than thou lol and I keep repeating myself in here but will give up now. If the singularity is imminent, I don’t need to prove it that it is not, but the person making the claim needs to do that. (If God is real, I don’t need to disproof it, someone needs to prove it). This is not an elitist, holier-than-thou attitude, every idea will be dissected and scrutinized. I am in fact trying to go outside of my bubble where the topic AGI and singularity are treated with ridicule tbh, which I disagree with. Also again, my point is not to disprove the singularity, but it is about the state of this sub

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AndromedaAnimated t1_j1i1fvq wrote

Look, I am not trying to say that you are a bad person or something.

Like I said, I just think that the state of the subreddit is not up to a single individual to judge. I tried to provide feedback, ok? And even told you that I do not exclude myself from such behavior. It’s human after all.

Only after you stated that you merely think I would be projecting - despite me presenting arguments where you have gone off the wrong path in a detailed way - that I have started to think that you are not self-aware and just bash others - namely the laymen dreamers. They have the right to be here too, you know?

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