crua9 OP t1_j0jx83a wrote on December 17, 2022 at 5:08 AM

Reply to comment by TouchLow6081 in what AI or robotic thing you would work on if you had Musk money? by crua9

>Will they be drones? Robotic humanoids? Autonomous machines?

Both cops and firefighters you need robotic humanoids. Like with both you can use drones, but they have limits. Like with the cop one, drones are loud. It is just the laws of physics. Like a fully electric car going down highway is also loud due to wind and tires. There is some things you can't fix.

And with firefighting having it go into a burning building isn't smart. 3 things a fire needs to stay alive.

Oxygen
Fuel
Heat

Take away one, and it will go away. But, add more of 1 and it burns hotter. A drone is likely to push more oxygen in the burning building.

As far as other types of robots. You might find something better. But it has to have legs and arms. Both firefighters and cops don't go on regular stuff. So wheels won't work.

Again, they can use other things like drones which fly around on the outside for more intel. But the bulk of the work will have to be a humanoid.

>Also what material would be best?

I have no idea. Like I don't have musk money, and that would be one of the things a lab needs to figure out. Even more with the firefighter one.

>There’s already some security robots being placed at hospitals for parking lot surveillance

A lot of those are basically cameras on wheels. Like they can't actually stop anyone. And they tend to get damaged by people.

>so I think the first place to start for fighter fighters is to create some basic programmable robot machine on wheels with the tech with have to create some type of remote controlled robot that can be driven to carry out victims from dangerous situations.

I highly suggest you to go and ask your local fire fighting area if they need help during training. That you are wondering about that.

Wheels can't go up steps. They can't go around a fallen beam. And it needs to be quick. Every second counts.

Lets say hypothetically I had musk money. I would develop an exoskeleton for the fighters. On my end, it is to collect data to help train and make simulations.

When I get a functional robot I would then make a way where it can be remotely controlled. This letting someone on the outside do the highly dangerous things. But on my end again more data collection.

Then I would have it be added as a partner. Like it will fight fires along with humans. And after a point it will phase out all the humans. Like if they are around it isn't for the dangerous work. You could even modify the trucks where the robots are on the outside and when they get where they need to they detach and start working. Add self driving to the mix and areas that need firefighters but can't get the staff can now have them

TouchLow6081 t1_j0k0jks wrote on December 17, 2022 at 5:43 AM

Wow your intro thesis amazes me. I love the way you eloquently pinpointed your ideas on behalf of physics and I believe your idea of creating cobots working along humans will be a good start to fight fires. Are you interested in chemical engineering by any chance? Also, I’m curious, are you planning to pursue formal education for this? Sounds like you’ll love mechatronics and chemical/data science. Also, the exo skeleton you’re referring too would it resemble something that Ironman wears, or the ones that the main character from the movie Elysium. Can you explain to me what do you mean by data collection in regards with the exo skeleton? But please please continue your pursuit in this passion sounds like you have tons of value you can provide to the world.

crua9 OP t1_j0k3624 wrote on December 17, 2022 at 6:13 AM

>Are you interested in chemical engineering by any chance? Also, I’m curious, are you planning to pursue formal education for this?

My background is in technology. I currently have 4 degrees, but I'm not planning on doing one in chemical engineering. My degrees are in Aerospace, general computer, network engineering, and a higher network degree with a focus on cyber security.

I looked into chemical engineering, and there just isn't any jobs in that in my area. Right now I mostly invest and deal with blockchain technologies to make money. I seriously doubt I will work again for someone in technology. There just isn't any jobs in that in my area, and there is personal reasons.

More than less, I was born in the wrong place and time to heavily worked in the robotic field. And unless if I get a heavy influx of cash. I seriously doubt I will ever be able to do anything serious in it outside of what I'm doing now.

It is what it is.

Remember this post and all in it was just a "what if". In this case, what if you were super rich like Musk.

>the exo skeleton you’re referring too would it resemble something that Ironman wears

To be honest, if I was developing military robots that is what I would aim for with our troops. Like a bunch of iron man full battle armor.

But with things outside of a live action environment where you are getting shot at. You only need something to help you run/walk longer, carry more, and so on. I can't remember off the top of my head, but if I recall right firefighter suites are 50 lb or so. Then if you have to move beams or something that might of fallen, pick up a person, and so on. An exoskeleton would made it like walking in a park.

Like it would be something like this but a better form factor https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soe78h5KXtk or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWmFEoDjUc4

That doesn't look as cool, but keep in mind on my end it would've been about data collection.

>Can you explain to me what do you mean by data collection in regards with the exo skeleton?

You can put sensors all over the thing. This lets you know how the person moves in that job, how often they move in a way, and so on. If you attach special cameras to their uniform it can scan the room while they are doing their job.

You can then take this data and make simulations and use AI or people to find the best build for a robot for such an environment.

It's similar to how Amazon has their workers wear stuff for data collection. This giving the AI more data to help better train their thing. And robots can eventually just do the job.