Submitted by dracount t3_zwo5ey in singularity
TheLastSamurai t1_j1x5bpx wrote
Reply to comment by Calm_Bonus_6464 in Concerns about the near future and the current gatekeepers of AI by dracount
No we don’t. We can stop it literally right now. Governments are overthrown, corporations are dismantled, organized motivated and angry people change the course of history. This quasi religious fate acompli attitude is very bizzare
Calm_Bonus_6464 t1_j1x5pvl wrote
So you want to stop the development of AI? Because AGI/ASI and Singularity inevitably means the above happens. The only way to stop it is to halt technological progress.
TheLastSamurai t1_j1x5t1x wrote
I’d be ok with that yes
Calm_Bonus_6464 t1_j1x64vo wrote
Well, that's not going to happen to be blunt. And given all the possibilities for good, I wouldn't want AI progress to stop.
TheLastSamurai t1_j1x680o wrote
Massive regulation is coming
Calm_Bonus_6464 t1_j1x6ega wrote
Even if it came in the West, China isn't going to stop developing AI simply because the West chooses to regulate it.
And good luck regulating a being more intelligent than you once ASI happens.
Webemperor t1_j1xwzus wrote
China is unironically more likely to regulate AI than any other government in the world in the off chance that one of their corporations make greater advancements in AI than them and overthrows them.
In West this is extremely unlikely since Western governments are essentially owned by corporations
Calm_Bonus_6464 t1_j1xympq wrote
> In West this is extremely unlikely since Western governments are essentially owned by corporations
US perhaps, but not Europe. I could actually see the EU attempting to regulate it.
Webemperor t1_j1y3zjj wrote
> I could actually see the EU attempting to regulate it.
Bro EU was literally created to serve coal and energy companies, EU is just as corporately owned as US is, at best only slightly less.
Calm_Bonus_6464 t1_j1y5so5 wrote
It depends, countries like France and Portugal probably aren't that different from the US, but northern European countries like Denmark, Finland, Sweden, Switzerland, Germany etc have the lowest levels of corruption in the world and are Europe's leaders in AI and big playmakers in EU decisions.
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Webemperor t1_j1y6uc6 wrote
Levels of corruption doesn't mean jackshit when corporate interference is pretty much baked into the system.
Calm_Bonus_6464 t1_j1y6wmx wrote
Can you give an example of that in Finland or Denmark?
Webemperor t1_j1y73ak wrote
The fact that they are a part of EU? I already told you, the organization was literally created, and exists, to protect corporate interests throughout the continent.
Calm_Bonus_6464 t1_j1y7brz wrote
Agree to disagree I guess.
No_Ask_994 t1_j1zeh8y wrote
Maybe.
The thing is, the country that doesn't stop ai development Will become the World leader in a few years/decades (depending on the starting position and resources....)
So I dont Think that any country Will stay out of the party. It might get regulated and controlled by goverments, and so, slow down, but AI Will keep going.
Anyway even uf they wanted it's imposible to stop without controlling computing power. In 20 years one Will probably be able to train a gpt-3 sized model in minutes in a personal computer
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