DaggerShowRabs t1_j0mei28 wrote on December 17, 2022 at 7:43 PM

Reply to comment by OldWorldRevival in Why are people so opposed to caution and ethics when it comes to AI? by OldWorldRevival

Maybe it's derivative, but it's derivative of a large, large amount of works and artists.

I would challenge you to post an example from a series of random prompts, and point out which artists the work is "derived" from.

You couldn't point one, or even a handful out, because of the sheer amount of different works and artists fed in. Even if it's "derivative", it's nearly imperceptibly derivative due to the sheer volume of data.

To say it's "copying" another artist is just completely, utterly incorrect.

OldWorldRevival OP t1_j0mfjh1 wrote on December 17, 2022 at 7:51 PM

I think you might not be up to date on the topic.

Corridor crew did an excellent video where they showcased the new tech, and credited the artist whose name the used in the prompt, but it was very very much like that artists images.

I think this may more be an awareness issue.

It is absolutely able to copy styles, and with high accuracy. I think artists on artstation are particularly angry because they're very ip to date on the styles and tends of artists, so many of them can also see whose work is being used.

DaggerShowRabs t1_j0mfot7 wrote on December 17, 2022 at 7:52 PM

>I think you might not be up to date on the topic.

You would be wrong on that. I'm talking about a series of random prompts, not prompts designed specifically to invoke a specific artist or style.

AndromedaAnimated t1_j0mrsup wrote on December 17, 2022 at 9:18 PM

So it’s basically a tool that can be misused. Previously, humans have been this tool.

Have you never seen artworks being copied and sold illegally? Every dollar store and flea market has „stolen art“, and you used to be able to even order large physical copies of artwork through the internet (a friend of mine did, that’s how I know, and no, I wouldn’t do that - I am a pretty skilled hobby artist, I‘d copy my Van Gogh myself).

Maybe the problem here is the prompts being used? If a human orders an AI to draw „trending on ArtStation“, it’s the human stealing, not the AI. So it would be very easy to prove you are not guilty, eh?

And it’s even possible to use your own pictures…

Is it the knife that’s evil, or the hand that stabs?

OldWorldRevival OP t1_j0msidz wrote on December 17, 2022 at 9:22 PM

AI art is not evil, innately.

The scraping of people's copyrighted, supposedly protected works and then using that work as tooling for your engineered system? That is evil, and it is a human decision that is the evil.

AndromedaAnimated t1_j0mv7h3 wrote on December 17, 2022 at 9:41 PM

Sorry cannot answer more. Your comment about dogs and calculus shows me that you are not safe for discussion 🤪

WarImportant9685 t1_j0mfkj0 wrote on December 17, 2022 at 7:51 PM

no I have tried stable diffusion, and you can enter prompt with blablabla + name of artist style. It does create the artist style. And sometimes there are even the artist handsign!