The ones I talk to about it, who unanimously don't want to cryonify, seem to be morally objected to it, but they don't know explicitly that they are morally objected to it. It's not really morals. It's more like an ill-defined value system that hasn't been examined . Like I've heard "well it's just weird. I mean it's not natural you know." Yeah I do know, the natural thing is dying, which I'm not into.

It just seems like a value judgment because most people don't explore or think about the fact that they're going to die all the time. Like I expect many cryonicists actually do. I bet that most people in our group are thinking oh boy, I don't want to die and I think of that all the time and that's why cryonics is like. Hey, maybe you won't. Yeah, maybe he's good enough for me. That sounds like a pretty good reason to try something that works on other organisms. Sure.

But if you've never thought about that and if you've grown up with either a religious upbringing where there is supposedly a guaranteed afterlife or you are just brought up where you've seen your grandma and grandpa die and then someone when you were younger told you that this is the way of life. This is the natural thing you are born. You grow old and die. Then most people I think have a very permanent view of life and death.

They think all right. Well I'm going to get old and die and there's nothing I can do. And if you say well there might be something you can do. Everyone will think you're crazy because you're speaking outside of their fish bowl.

You're giving someone perspective. What is a concrete reality in their mind? You're trying to convince them that it is a more malleable concept.

As technology develops, it'll become less antithetical to people. You know you couldn't explain what a bullet train was going to be to someone living 200 years ago. They'd be like look. I know horses, horses don't go that fast and you'd be like no no, this is not a horse. It's totally different. This is a new thing. They wouldn't believe you, but now everyone knows what a bullet train is.

Before germs were scientifically pinpointed it was whatever your particular folk story was. There was a demon in you that day or it was an ill wind that made you act a certain way and now we're all like. Oh yeah it's germs.

With death people think. Oh yeah that's death. I know what that is. That's that thing where you stop, it's that solid wall that is inevitable that everything living hits at some point, but it isn't that at qleast I don't think it is. I think it's a series of mechanical biological processes that deteriorate slowly until they cease functioning all together but they don't have to.