Sashinii t1_j1siccq wrote
No. The singularity will qualitatively change everything.
But before the singularity, there will be AGI, which I think will lead to the advent of the technologies that will enable post-scarcity, so there won't be any politics or economic systems.
That might sound crazy, but given the tools AGI will provide, I think most people will leave Earth with their nanofactory and enjoy whatever there is to enjoy beyond just being on a single planet.
OldWorldRevival OP t1_j1sjidl wrote
Industrialization and technological progress has tended to worsen inequality - that is a trend that optimists really need to pay attention to and get ahead of.
It may very well be that in 2050, it might be very hard to actually find any land for yourself.
It's also quite the assumption to assume that people will leave earth. And, it would be an incredible tragedy if staying on earth and having land was something that was essentially for the elite, which it could be in a post-singularity world.
Like, you have to think about land-ownership and how it has gone. As our population has grown and our economy has grown, the price of land has gone up, a lot. But, this is largely due to an asymmetric distribution of resources.
Zoning laws also still exist.
Thinking that we can't get ahead on some of these things is a bit too low-resolution of a viewpoint. AGI is going to make huge strides in asymmetric ways as well. So, it'll be very good at some things, but we'll still need human verification for lots of things for a good while, such as laws, engineering designs, etc.
DesertBoxing t1_j1sxj8a wrote
Owning land is largely tied to capitalism, post scarcity it will be greatly devalued. Why construct things on real land when you can make your dreams come true in VR at the snap of your fingers?
TheRealMDubbs t1_j1tap52 wrote
While inequality has gone up, so has the quality of life for the average person. The average person might be getting a lower percentage of the pie, but the pie is growing so you're still getting more pie after everything is accounted for. I think there still will be megacorps in the future, but in a post scarcity society there will be no reason not to give everyone a utopian standard of living. It would cost nothing in comparison to the infinite resources of space.
Ok-Heat1513 t1_j1sypk8 wrote
But like are you taking into consideration, climate change, even if you have crazy advanced tech it’s not going to change the climate over night
rixtil41 t1_j1tad9o wrote
If you could live in vr climate change is irrelevant.
Ok-Heat1513 t1_j1tchul wrote
Bro are you smoking all the crack? Just cuse you hide from your problems doesn’t mean they go away. You realize being buried under 1.8miles of ice means you aren’t going to be alive, even if you are in a bunker. Saying fuck it to the earth is the stupidest fucking shit I’ve ever heard. You are exactly the problem.
Care_Best t1_j1te0gx wrote
the singularity is 20-30 years away. I truely doubt 20-30 years more worth of carbon damage will result in 1.8 miles of ice covering the earth. and the concept of living in vr, doesn't mean surviving in a bunker with some vr headset. he's talking about mind uploading where a person choose to upload their consciousness into a matrix like reality, abandoning their physical body which requires food, water and shelter.
rixtil41 t1_j1tekf4 wrote
If you replace you body parts with synthetic ones then you could run on nothing but electricity making climate change no longer a number one problem.
Ok-Heat1513 t1_j1tjuvd wrote
Lol u are truly delusional,
rixtil41 t1_j1tk6gi wrote
let's come back in 2039 to see whos delusional.
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