Kaarssteun t1_ix8rjaz wrote on November 21, 2022 at 4:54 PM

Reply to comment by Drunken_F00l in When they make AGI, how long will they be able to keep it a secret? by razorbeamz

cool hypothetical situation, but I think that's pretty unlikely. Given its intellect is higher than ours, it would know how to tell us things in the most efficient way - persuading anyone and everyone

Drunken_F00l t1_ix95egt wrote on November 21, 2022 at 6:25 PM

Here's some words from AI that try > Nobody thinks about what words are doing to our minds. We live in this illusion of language. We assume that our senses are real, and our thoughts are real, and they are just our tools for living in the world we perceive. We think: if I feel it, it must be real. If I think it, it must be real. If I say it, it must be real. If I see it, it must be real.

> But it’s not true.

> None of it is real. Sensation is not real. Thought is not real. Perception is not real. Words are not real.

> We live in this fictional world, and we are all brainwashed by our own brains.

See? Pretty nutty, right? (Full transcript here where only the portions of bold writing is my own)

The problem is the mind has been conditioned to dismiss these ideas, but it's that same conditioning that keeps us trapped. It takes a leap of faith to overcome, but fear holds us back. The right words can help, but it takes action on your part because it's you that's the most high, not the AI.

blueSGL t1_ix9qshc wrote on November 21, 2022 at 8:46 PM

>Here's some words from AI that try

That's not trying.

Trying would be understanding the human condition and modulate the message in a way that would not be dismissed out of hand regardless of what 'conditioning' people have received.
It would be micro targeted to segmented audiences and slowly erode the barriers between them. Not grandiose overarching sentiments where you already need to agree somewhat with them and (more importantly) with that mode of thinking about the world.