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beachmike t1_iwu7z6n wrote

Everything points to what I said about consciousness being the case. You can't grasp what I said about consciousness because you're stuck in the failed and outmoded materialist paradigm. You may not be capable of shifting to the more enlightened idealistic paradigm.

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DaggerShowRabs t1_iwukzvu wrote

The idealistic paradigm is unverifiable woo-woo fucking nonsense.

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Logical-Cup1374 t1_iwuy79v wrote

So is believing reality is simply a cascade of matter and forces. Everything exists as a quantum entangled field of energy and vibration. A gazillion times a second, matter is determined through the gaze of awareness like the tugging of a single ribbon among millions of ribbons, creating cause and effect and the illusion of space, time, and the experience of 3d reality. This state of determination is what we live in constantly, this 3d space where you can think logically and look around and feel separate from things.

But in the state of undetermination, when the substance of your being and all other things are unfiltered by awareness, and suspended in a strange energetic superposition of space and time, in which they have the potential to be and move in absolutely whichever possibility is chosen, where seemingly random decisions are being made, is where you find the truest source of creation. It's not 1s and 0s, past and present exist at once and awareness can look anywhere, it's the eternal dance of life in which the nature of a thing and the nature of reality determine reality, NATURE, being a things meaning and intention. The piece of us, or the piece of a thing, which makes it makes sense, which solves the why of its existence, which gives it a meaningful pattern to fit into in creation. It was the big bang particles meaning and intention to create this reality. It's our meaning and intention which create our own lives, it is a particle of irons meaning and intention to behave like iron. Literally, everything is alive, everything is CONSCIOUS, it's just that some things are helplessly aware, helplessly existing and interacting, and some things get to look at themselves and try to decide who and what they are, to wilfully determine things as an independent self, because it has a supercomputer in its head that models the function of consciousness. (animals, but especially humans)

Don't know how well I described it but this seems to be the case the more I look. Thinking reality is this helpless stringing out of time and we're all fundamentally alone within our heads doesn't seem right at all. But I suppose we won't know for certain as a society until someone proves one way or the other

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beachmike t1_iwvr77t wrote

You're not only disagreeing with me, but with Max Planck and Erwin Schroedinger.

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DaggerShowRabs t1_iwys0i3 wrote

Cool, now list a couple of modern major neuroscientists that believe in panpsychism nonsense. I'll wait.

Frankly, I don't give a fuck what Max Planck or Erwin Schroedinger think about an area that's extremely outside their domain. Erwin Schroedinger and Max Planck? Seriously? That's your fallacious appeal to authority? If you're going to use a fallacy, you could have at least used more compelling examples.

Roger Penrose is maybe one you could point to (still outside his domain), but pretty much all neuroscientists rightly call his quantum consciousness ideas non-scientific garbage. And that's barely on the spectrum of the pseudo-scientific panpsychism shit that you espouse.

Unfortunately for you, there aren't a whole lot of respected neuroscientists who believe in panpsychism. Panpsychism is an invention of philosophers with little grounding in science because they get hung-up on the made-up phenomenon of "qualia".

Qualia was made-up by people to feel special about themselves.

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beachmike t1_iwz9ly4 wrote

I wasn't describing pansychism, I was describing idealism. You obviously have no understanding of what qualia is. You're very dense, but of course, that describes your low state of consciousness.

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DaggerShowRabs t1_iwza0li wrote

No, I quite do, but thanks for your uninformed, low quality opinion.

Your use of ad-hominem shows you to be an intellectual lightweight.

Now, kindly fuck off pissant.

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beachmike t1_iwzc2wv wrote

Your immature use of swear words and ad hominem show you've lost the argument and realize you've been outclassed.

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DaggerShowRabs t1_iwzc86b wrote

I haven't used ad-hominem. I addressed every point you made. So I correctly pointed out that you were using ad-hominem to dodge my points, like the intellectual lightweight that you are.

The fact that you think I've been "outclassed" when you haven't even addressed a single point I've made is actually really, truly sad.

Now, fuck off pissant.

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