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BinyaminDelta t1_ityfizy wrote

Or we're in an ancestor simulation and we're experiencing this incredible time in history because it's been selected as interesting.

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Mundane-Local-2728 t1_ityngip wrote

Holy shit, what if we are in one of the ancestor sims future humans ran in order to solve some big civilization-threatening inevitable crisis in their time, which requires some small remediation in their past (our present or possible future)? They probably have figured out how to travel back in time, and just waiting to find the optimal solution of their crisis.

Once they find that solution, they can go back in their past and implement an ever so small correction in their timeline, so that they don't alter their own timeline by huge amount but avert the crisis completely.

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wen_mars t1_itz0zey wrote

Without breaking our current understanding of the laws of physics: They haven't figured out time travel so they run a simulation of Earth to predict the future and find solutions to problems before they happen and simulate the consequences of those solutions.

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Mundane-Local-2728 t1_itz29zc wrote

Ooh this is actually even more realistic scenario. But that's exactly what makes it even more terrifying, because it goes without saying that civilizations in most of those sims would not arrive at the intended solutions and hence either get destroyed or the simulators would just switch them off. So our chances being in one of those "loser" sims are actually far greater than the "winner" ones.

Fuck.

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wen_mars t1_itz3u16 wrote

"Damn, rejected again. Computer, reload from last save."

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Mundane-Local-2728 t1_itz2f8z wrote

Also, there's a good possibility that the simulators just turn off the "winner" sims as well, once they have arrived at the solutions, because it wouldn't make sense to spend all that compute power once the sims have served their purpose.

So we're screwed either way.

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Dr_Singularity t1_itz805i wrote

"they", you mean we, we(literally you, me, other people here) may be behind this simulation.

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Mundane-Local-2728 t1_itzhomh wrote

True. Although I'm still a little skeptical that we'll be able to run lifelike sims in our lifetimes.

P.S. - I say "lifelike" in a literal sense - i.e. there's literally no difference between the fidelity of the sim and what we're experiencing right now. All physical laws (down to the unified theory of the reality that we might form in the future), all observable and interactable physical objects (down to their most fundamental particles), literally everything behaves and is present as it is in our reality.

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xutw21 t1_itxwebi wrote

Future generations will say that too. It's a never-ending cycle that will continue in the future, it seems. But what makes this a pivotal moment in history is that we've got a big chance in our lifetime to firsthand experience transcending exponential growth in science & technology that outshines all of history. We're damn lucky to be alive in this era.

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TheSingulatarian t1_itycb5a wrote

Humanity has been on an accelerating technological rocket-ship for the last 500 years.

It is only going to go faster.

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sonderlingg t1_ity1nn6 wrote

Now think how many living things there are on Earth.

And how lucky you are just to be human, not some insect being eaten from the inside by parasitoid wasp's larva

Btw where did you get 0.07%? There were about 117 billion humans in total. So it makes 8/117 = ~6.83%

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Economy_Variation365 t1_ity8m92 wrote

I believe he simply divided 200 years of electrified history by 300,000 years of homo sapien-osity.

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mewme-mow t1_ityzakl wrote

Whenever I'm bothered by trivial things I try to appreciate being born as a 21st century European instead of any kind of wild animal (most of them live in pretty hellish circumstances when you think about it) or a medieval peasant, or even Louis XIV.

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UnionPacifik t1_itzhjl9 wrote

Fun fact, medieval peasants worked less hours a day than the average Westerner living today.

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2Punx2Furious t1_ityofsh wrote

> There were about 117 billion humans in total. So it makes 8/117 = ~6.83%

But that only counts past humans. Of course, we can't know how many humans there will be in the future (if any), but that number is probably higher.

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-ZeroRelevance- t1_itzmlc3 wrote

In such a case we may actually be cosmically unlucky, assuming humanity manages to spread across the galaxy and prosper for millions of years, creating many orders of magnitude more humans than have ever existed in history.

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Qumeric t1_ity6vsi wrote

It is a much larger chance in % of people ever lived which is more appropriate.

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ActuaryGlittering16 t1_ity43aa wrote

I wonder if millennials will be the first and perhaps only generation to reverse their physical ages. I kind of want to be something like 85 years old and then take some regimen that slowly transforms me back to my 25 year old self. That would be insane to experience.

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175ParkAvenue t1_ityk4z6 wrote

Most people currenty under 50 are likely going to make it to LEV.

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ActuaryGlittering16 t1_itylf9t wrote

I tend to agree, although my estimate is the 2060s for something that ambitious.

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r0cket-b0i t1_itz0v6p wrote

>lly believe as my hypothesis (with some logic and research) tha

We can try to track this, for example pick something like Parkinson's, if age reversal is 2060 when do we fix Parkinson's? 2050? Lets put that on a map and wait, and lets do that with hundred other predictions.

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Northcliff t1_ityd3bp wrote

Not likely

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gumby52 t1_itypsav wrote

Lol we almost certainly will

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canadian-weed t1_itz6i9p wrote

narrator: we already fucked it up

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Miss-Legendary t1_itz2fru wrote

I also hope we don’t fuck it up. The chances of fucking it up are higher now. The development of AI, is not similar to the discovery of fire, that we could just turned it off if anything went wrong. We have to get it right for the first time, no trial and error learning.

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RavenWolf1 t1_itz6sxu wrote

I would rather be born at year of 2100 or something.

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Primus_Pilus1 t1_itydvgw wrote

I don't actually feel weird about it because I reject the premise of your first sentence.

I totally believe as my hypothesis (with some logic and research) that there have been multiple civilizations in the past and that the last civilization was destroyed by the Younger Dryas Event. (mass small asteroid strikes across northern hemisphere)

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JDP87 t1_ityy7lv wrote

You’ve read Hancock’s work?

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Primus_Pilus1 t1_itzdf0f wrote

Among others. There is a 'narrative' pushed in school and the establishment has been far too dogmatic in several fields to even acknowledge catastrophism as a legitimate school of thought.

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cloudrunner69 OP t1_itygecx wrote

What level was the technology of this lost civilization?

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Primus_Pilus1 t1_ityhmtm wrote

Based on the out of place attifacts? Bronze/Iron Age maybe?

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cloudrunner69 OP t1_ityibgh wrote

Where they living in a world powered by electricity? Because I'm not great at history but from what I can recall they didn't have electricity like we do now during the bronze and iron age.

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-ZeroRelevance- t1_itzmugc wrote

This sounds interesting, is there anywhere I could read more about this idea?

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Primus_Pilus1 t1_iu2cqhx wrote

Graham Hancock "America Before" and Immanuel Velikovsky. Start looking at those authors.

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Mobile-Hall865 t1_itznegl wrote

Of the total number of people that had ever lived on the planet Earth we still make up for around 10% of that number. So lucky? Yes indeed! But not soooo damn lucky. But i think it really comes down to how back one may choose to count the total number of humans that ever lived, this 10% figure takes the number from as far back as 50 thousand years and compares it with the number of people alive today. But i think if we stretch further back or even include other primates or animals with large enough brain to have sense of self then yes we all must be soooooooooooooo damn lucky to be where all of us are now.

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Erickaltifire t1_itzt63l wrote

I believe there have been previous advanced civilizations on this planet within its 4.5 Billion year history. Given enough time even plastic will eventually disappear, sublimate into the crust, etc. We aren't the first and won't be the last I imagine.

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