Submitted by pradej t3_y6gas6 in singularity

These are important sectors that I feel are often overlooked when it comes to automation.

A lot of people online list these sectors as being safe from automation, and some say that people should aim for these careers as they will be safe from automation.

What are your thoughts on this? How will these fields be changed in the coming years?

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phriot t1_isp8w1p wrote

I assume it won't be too long before I can have an intelligent agent/assistant that can do a really good job finding papers for me. Keyword searches aren't bad, but there's often a fair amount of filtering that I have to do myself.

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Background-Loan681 t1_ispbh4h wrote

Something real close to that exists now...

Check out character.ai, pick an intelligent character, and discuss anything you want with it.

Sometimes it will make stuff up, sometimes it will recommend you existing piece of literature/media, sometimes it will blow your mind by the quality of their advices.

Sometimes it will pull up an extremely recent news that you gotta wonder if they're googling stuff real time while you're talking with it.

It can also discuss the content of books and all sorts of media.

It's quite interesting, really...

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phriot t1_ispdtkp wrote

It looks like I have to sign up to use the service. I'll definitely check it out later.

Honestly, one of the biggest filters that I need is: "Show me only the papers I actually have access to. Don't show me PubMed links that don't include a full paper. Don't show me links to Elsevier journals that I look like I have access, but I really don't."

Google Scholar does usually indicate an actual, downloadable paper with a link in the margins, but it's not perfect. Sometimes I need to scroll through a few pages of results to turn up a few papers I can even access, and then they're not always relevant. Other times, there actually is a version of the paper I can access, but Google Scholar doesn't indicate that as an option, so I have to click a few times to dig deeper.

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Sashinii t1_isp51q3 wrote

Literally every job will be automated in the near future.

As for how the fields will change when AI takes over all of them, we'll finally get all of those cool technologies that people have been reading about for years that never left the lab before, so for example: medicine will be so advanced that it'll actually cure illnesses instead of treating them.

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Artanthos t1_isq2kn5 wrote

Not every job.

Some jobs are much harder to automate. Some jobs people won’t want robots doing even if they can.

For example; restaurants. Yes, fast food is already automating. Fine dining? The customers are going to expect human waiters and chefs.

Another example is government. A lot of people simply won’t accept being governed by machines. People will expect humans to continue to make the decisions.

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tatleoat t1_isr5wpn wrote

Yeah restaurants should be fine unless my robot slave cooks for me and I just downloaded the French cuisine DLC

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Zealousideal_Ad3783 t1_isshtg4 wrote

Why would they want human chefs? I imagine fine dining is the type of restaurant experience where people would care most about wanting the highest quality and precise food preparation possible.

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TheSingulatarian t1_issu00i wrote

The waiters, maître d', Sommelier etc will still be human. The stuff you don't see will be automated.

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Artanthos t1_isq1li5 wrote

Finance has far more automation than you think it does. It was an early adopter. They just don’t advertise the machine learning algorithms watch and analyzing the markets 24/7, and even making a lot of trades autonomously.

Machine learning in medicine as a diagnostic tool has been widely publicized.

I read an article yesterday about machine learning finding more efficient algorithms for matrix multiplication.

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crua9 t1_isrm0tu wrote

I will copy and paste what I said somewhere else.

I think you will need AGI for most developers to lose their job. Like the average person, management, etc doesn't know what to ask the AI to do to get it to do what they want.

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I think the jobs that are at most risk with modern or near modern AI is things like accountants, basic legal, and things like that. Things where you can put in exact inputs or give a system whatever, and it will spit out the answer.

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I think we are maybe 10 years from it starting to take over a lot of engineering jobs.

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AdditionalPizza t1_isppjrh wrote

Are we talking full automation, or partial? Full meaning every single job in that sector, partial meaning anything between zero automation and full automation.

In the partial automation category, anything that just requires a brain will be automated first. Anything that requires a body will probably be last. There might be a few people left to do certain tasks, but ultimately everyone else would have to be on some kind of universal income at that point anyway, if money even exists in the same way it does now.

As for in the coming years, I think most of the jobs you listed will be mostly automated by 2030. I think full automation could be a while but who knows.

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SnowyNW t1_ispubfy wrote

How to sequester value in post monetary economy?????

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cobra2814 t1_isrc1ge wrote

Tangible assets like real estate will always have intrinsic value, however the future decides to denominate it.

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SnowyNW t1_isrc4no wrote

How do you mean, denominate it? We won’t know until then?

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cobra2814 t1_isyc971 wrote

Correct. We will have to have a way to measure value. How we do that will be interesting to see.

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SnowyNW t1_isydjqe wrote

Why not look back at history? Art.

Everything is a flat circle anyways

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ihateshadylandlords t1_isp7rb9 wrote

I don’t things will change that much over the next 10 years. But I think a lot will change over the next 20 years. Automation is only going to increase as it becomes more affordable/practical for companies. Hopefully our politicians and business leaders are thinking about what’s on the horizon.

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Kaarssteun t1_isp5ly3 wrote

If you want an extra 2 months of soul wrenching labor while 80% of the population is sipping martinis in a post scarcity UBI program, go for those jobs!

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DukkyDrake t1_isqp5zb wrote

Open AI CEO's vision is everyone gets $13,500 every year on their 18th birthday. That's a lot less that some people on welfare used to get, but don't worry, robot labor should make martinis much cheaper.

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TheSingulatarian t1_issu9jl wrote

UBI is going to be subsistence level. More swigging Popov Vodka out of a plastic jug in a back alley than cocktails on the beach.

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SnowyNW t1_isptrt4 wrote

Fuck. Are you serious? What’s the point of life then if you’re a complete hermit and have no friends or conversations in years? My only hope was a job

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Kaarssteun t1_ispwtvs wrote

Not having to work does not equal an inability to work.

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SnowyNW t1_isqvaoq wrote

How will status be determined?

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GenoHuman t1_isrr1qw wrote

status if that's important to you can still be determined by attractiveness, social circle and personality, it already is in society today.

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Kolinnor t1_isq0mb0 wrote

I definitely think that for mathematics, we'll have tools similar to chess engines (something like Lichess UI would be amazing) but to help us solve problems (well, this exists already, but it's not really that good, and the ambiguity it can tolerate is mostly hard coded stuff).

I heard a few months ago about a tool that transformed formal prover code into LaTeX (or vice-versa, I can't remember), based on GPT-3. I can't imagine this kind of tools not being a huge thing in the next few years. Especially, I'm expecting that future math articles will have code with formal proofs in appendix (or like a github link).

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TheSingulatarian t1_isst5n4 wrote

Acceleration, keeping up with new information and breakthroughs will be the challenge. Having an AI assistant to filter and condense information may become necessary.

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