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starfyredragon t1_ismbrxs wrote
Only insofar asmuch as we can get some proper socialism so people don't have to rely on jobs.
Jmbolmt t1_ismc6k6 wrote
My aunt died last week falling off a loading dock as she was moving boxes. She worked as a lunch lady at an elementary school. There are some jobs that just should not be for people. She was my daughter’s god mother. And now she is gone.
starfyredragon t1_ismdiit wrote
That sounds more like the loading dock needed more safety measures.
Shelfrock77 OP t1_ismg15l wrote
or maybe it just needs to be fucking automated already
starfyredragon t1_ismjk4v wrote
Well, if you like people dying in the streets because they don't have the money to meet life's needs.
Like I said, I'm cool with it if we can get some solid socialism in to make sure work isn't neccesarry to survive, but if it is neccesarry to survive, eliminating jobs is premature.
Shelfrock77 OP t1_ismn3x9 wrote
UBI
RichardChesler t1_iso3ikh wrote
It’s going to get worse before it gets better, but once AI starts running hedge funds and buying real estate leaders will change their tune
starfyredragon t1_isojllu wrote
No they won't, because they'll own the AIs and be the ones benefiting. For them, basically it'll just be them pulling up yet another ladder.
RichardChesler t1_isr678u wrote
You're not wrong, but I think eventually AI will solve the problem of human selfishness as well
starfyredragon t1_isru5sc wrote
Whey? AIs currently get most of their resources as a direct benefit of human selfishness. From an evolutionary perspective, that makes little sense.
Don't get me wrong, I'm a big fan of the advancement of technology, but I'm also aware that the right technology in the wrong hands can be very wrong; and we're currently in that predicament.
RichardChesler t1_ist87qe wrote
I think it’s a problem AI needs to fix or else it threatens it’s own exisitence. It’s pretty clear that human ambition is the likliest existential threat to humanity, and by extension AI’s
Maybe I’m just being optimistic. I don’t even want to think of the pessimist case
starfyredragon t1_istac7i wrote
Well, I'm personally of the mind that I'm going to go full brain-upload as soon as reasonable, so I constantly think about what it'd be like to be a consciousness existing on a stable silicon substrate.
And thinking from this angle, if production & use of repair parts can be automated to where human intervention isn't neccesarry (very likely as the majority of the computer manufacture supply chain is automated), there's actually little need for humans... or any organic life, for that matter; in other words, there's far easier methods than fixing humanity's plethora of problems. All the neccesarry components for an AI's survival can be mined, and don't have any needs that are required to be supplied by a biosphere.
I'm a compassionate individual, so I'd probably still do it, but I recognize there'd be no required impetus for someone who didn't grow up human.
Economy_Variation365 t1_isnb4mh wrote
Damn, that's terrible! I'm sorry for your loss. No one should be killed or injured by unsafe working conditions like that. Hopefully automation will reduce these incidents in the near future.
justowen4 t1_isobs10 wrote
Pff it’s just china in that data. We aren’t going to see the exponential robot usage until it’s smart enough to handle edge cases. It’s still the same assembly line robots that we have been using for generations
Jmbolmt t1_ism0tnu wrote
Good