fuckdonaldtrump7 t1_irup348 wrote on October 11, 2022 at 4:21 AM

Reply to comment by Ezekiel_W in what jobs will we have post singularity? by theferalturtle

Gotcha. I'd say Europe is better setup to transition into an automated eco ony with social support in place where it is a more acceptable culture to not base your life around work. I think it will take Americans awhile to get used to this cultural change. A lot of ego maniacs that won't get there power trip yelling at robots and uneducated people that would side with the manager fucking them over. Perhaps I am just pessimistic from the last 30+ years but hope we can get there.

Sadly I think we are more likely in the reality where world powers make robots to police and fight our wars keeping the industrial military complex alive and well. Closer to say cyberpunk 2077

expelten t1_irvsxwr wrote on October 11, 2022 at 12:46 PM

Yes but in the world of Cyberpunk 2077 the singularity didn't happen. I'm not sure where we're going but the western world will end up very different than what fiction is predicting. For example what will happen once the average annual economic growth goes from 3% to 20%?...Because that's what going to happen in the early times of AGI and mass produced humanoids robots. Are we going to let trillionaires be a thing and have the average person live in a coffin or are we going to build a normal society? What can we do when so many people seem to believe the solution is fascism?

fuckdonaldtrump7 t1_irw9ik1 wrote on October 11, 2022 at 2:51 PM

Yeah and people assume singularity will happen in real life. I think people forget it is far from a guaranteed event. Even that much economic growth does not guarantee a successful society.

BearStorms t1_is2feti wrote on October 12, 2022 at 8:27 PM

But even with just a bit more advanced specialized AIs but not anywhere close to AGI we could see massive AI driven productivity gains and also unemployment. This is pretty much guaranteed to come soon and could take us by surprise. How many illustrator jobs are there gonna be in a couple of years? Drivers are hopefully going to be a history within 10 years. Most journalism too. Etc., etc. There will be MASSIVE effects way before Singularity. It will be a continuum. By the time actual Singularity event comes the world will be completely different from ours.

fuckdonaldtrump7 t1_is2kfec wrote on October 12, 2022 at 8:58 PM

Agreed I'm just not going to be surprised if there is still an elite ruling class that still controls much of society. We may have massive unemployment but what quality of life will they be granted? Looking at homelessness and drug issues with current lack of quality jobs. I think it may be an ugly transition but I am very pessimistic with these types of things because humanity as a whole has shown very little structure around this particular issue.

TheSingulatarian t1_irxq50i wrote on October 11, 2022 at 8:32 PM

Oh, it is going to be the coffin (living capsules) for most. You get a UBI, you get more if you agree to be sterilized. The younger you agree to be sterilized the more you get.

BearStorms t1_is2eorn wrote on October 12, 2022 at 8:22 PM

I would hope than the early solution to massive AI driven unemployment will be some kind of Universal Basic Income (UBI) scheme that would allow to afford a dignified living. And then society will evolve from there. Singularity will mean post-scarcity in most goods and the current economic system will be probably obsolete by then.