This might not be the best place to ask this but I thought, perhaps, someone here might have some idea on how to accomplish my sci-fi kind, "out there" goal. I think many of us have heard Ray Kurzweil speak of hoping to "bring back" his father by recreating his personality including as many memories as possible. I 've spoken to others that hope to do the same thing at some point. I actually think humanity will do this more and more in the future, recreate those that have passed be it loved ones, famous movie stars, singers, artists, scientists, etc.

So, my question is: If you want to create the persona of a deceased love one in which the conversation remains private, is that doable now? I know that you can use CPPTGPT now to sort of get it to respond as someone else but it's certainly not private and doesn't go as far as uploading information to create a true a portrait of the person. Ideally, I'd like to create a history, a personality. eventually add images, etc. I assume the ChatGPT API is a no for this as it's for building specific apps for business, etc. Would Alpaca and Llama be a possibility? Any suggestions would be appreciated.

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old-dirty-olorin t1_jdnd5n7 wrote on March 25, 2023 at 6:14 PM

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What you are asking for is not possible. Not at least in a truly emotionally satisfying way. Any data you input is going to be skewed to your perspective. Not the true person :(

This tech is not far off though.

Here's how it will work, at first most likely.

An App. AI driven. Installed on all smart devices

Parents install it over the childs device, they grow up with it.
It monitors all interactions and sits in the background for as long as they want it.
Maybe even sensors in the childs room. Listening to mannerisms and patterns
As an independent adult participation becomes a matter of choice
The longer you use it the more the accurate the model becomes.

This is how to store somesones "likeness" but nothing will ever replace the original.

MattDaMannnn t1_jdnnsc6 wrote on March 25, 2023 at 7:29 PM

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Alpaca would be a good starting point, but for your goals you’re really going to need an open source multi-modal language model, so basically GPT4 but open so that you can run it locally. I’d give it a year before that’s made for free or cheap, but hopefully I’m wrong.

SuperSpaceEye t1_jdnzekf wrote on March 25, 2023 at 8:54 PM

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Right now? Not really. In the future? Will probably require a ton of data about person (If you want it to be at least somewhat close)

clearlylacking t1_jdoome3 wrote on March 26, 2023 at 12:05 AM

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Replying to old-dirty-olorin (#2,356,661)

I have given some serious thought to wearing a mic at all times and recording all my social interactions just for this purpose.

mskogly t1_jdq5wpp wrote on March 26, 2023 at 9:15 AM

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Replying to old-dirty-olorin (#2,356,661)

The humanoid robot in Klara and the sun is a bit like that. It spends alot of time interacting and learning from a (sick) child, and the goal is that thw robot takes over if the kid dies.

czmax t1_jdsvsrf wrote on March 26, 2023 at 10:48 PM

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Replying to old-dirty-olorin (#2,356,661)

I agree. This is how it will happen.

We’ll see if first in famous reality tv folks. Someday soon an influencer or Hollywood star will have enough on video of themselves, and money, that somebody will try it “for” or “on” them (depending on the contract).

I think it’ll take substantial 24/7 logs to create anything better than an “uncanny valley” version of somebody. Which is why it’ll start w actors and famous folks people want to see in more roles or “meet”.

One of the first will be an Elvis AI that manages your Vegas vacation.

FC4945 OP t1_je786b5 wrote on March 29, 2023 at 10:24 PM

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Replying to MattDaMannnn (#2,357,774)

Thanks. I was thinking that as well but I hope it happens before a year. I know there's a couple of open source LLMs out there now but I'm doubtful they're capable of this yet. Maybe in a few months time that will change.

FC4945 OP t1_je79a2z wrote on March 29, 2023 at 10:32 PM

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I read "Virtually Human: The Promise--And the Peril--of Digital Immortality" Martine A. Rothblatt recently and it's changed my perspective on how we understand another person as well as "who I am" and what the boundaries of that is person-ness is. I honestly don't think we ever really know another person completely. We have our perception of someone but we're not able to knw what goes on inside someone else's mind, the totality of their thoughts and experiences. From that perspective, I think it's possible to recreate a person that will satisfy our emotional needs and seem to us very much like the original. There's a Buddhist quote that I like which relates to this: I am not what you think I am, you are what you think I am."

FC4945 OP t1_jee3cv7 wrote on March 31, 2023 at 10:41 AM

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Replying to clearlylacking (#2,361,598)

That's an interesting idea. I need to record my mother more often, do more questions and answers with her too.

FC4945 OP t1_jee3m13 wrote on March 31, 2023 at 10:44 AM

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Replying to SuperSpaceEye (#2,359,059)

I don't think we're that far off and, once we have nanobots that can go inside the brain, l can see where we will be able to slowly upload our consciousness to the cloud. But in terms of recreating people that have passed, it would seem just a matter of having enough data to be convincing to us.