Cartossin t1_jeb3daj wrote on March 30, 2023 at 6:48 PM

Reply to comment by scooby1st in Where do you place yourself on the curve? by Many_Consequence_337

I'm being somewhat factious here with my book reference. Obviously not everyone has read this book nor is it even the most popular work on the topic. However, if you object to my term "digital god", perhaps you don't know what an AGI/ASI is. Maybe you don't know what a god is.

Yes, obviously we are entering uncharted waters. Perhaps being superior to all humans at every cognitive task in every measurable way won't yield godlike abilities. I however find that hard to believe. To believe that significantly superhuman intelligence won't seem magical to us lowly humans is hubris.

I'm not claiming any of this is a certainty, and I could point you to many sources scholarly and otherwise from both the computer science and philosphy fields that explain how an AGI can and will become godlike; but maybe you'll just mock+downvote me again for referencing a thing I read.

scooby1st t1_jeb4kst wrote on March 30, 2023 at 6:56 PM

We're on the same page that a hypothetically hyper-intelligent system could be "god-like". We are completely diverged in how implicitly confident you are about this occurring with ChatGPT, regardless that "you aren't claiming any of this with a certainty".

It's pretty bold that say you're tired of everyone saying the creation of a god is hype, and then to say, oh yeah but I'm not 100% sure on that, I'm being realistic.

Cartossin t1_jeb6xm9 wrote on March 30, 2023 at 7:11 PM

>how implicitly confident you are about this occurring with ChatGPT

I was not referring to ChatGPT as the thing that will become the digital god. I am mostly saying that it is a reminder that the digital gods are coming even if they don't come out of LLMS.

If I asked you 5 years ago what your estimate for when we'll achieve AGI, what would it have been? Since the release of ChatGPT + GPT4, has this estimate changed?

If you asked me 5 years ago, I'd have said 20-100 years. If you ask me now, I say more like 2-20 years. Why? Because we've gotten much closer than I thought we'd be by now. I have to update the timeline.

scooby1st t1_jeb98pr wrote on March 30, 2023 at 7:26 PM

You certainly leave a lot of room for people to read your mind. You say a lot of things without saying them.

Cartossin t1_jebcc4q wrote on March 30, 2023 at 7:46 PM

Noted. Did you see my two questions?

scooby1st t1_jebdjwn wrote on March 30, 2023 at 7:53 PM

Lmao bro I'm not skimming your single sentence original comment. I hate people that hide behind ambiguity and poor communication as a shield for their bullshit. You're riding a hype train and you keep an ambiguous line between "some definition of AGI perhaps in the near future" and "god is being created".

That's quite the goalpost you've moved at your own convenience.You're very disingenuous. Quit your bullshit homie. If your original statement was able to be interpreted in so many ways, communicate better.

Cartossin t1_jeedewy wrote on March 31, 2023 at 12:25 PM

I have a Scooby tattoo and a guy called Scooby1st got mad at me. fml

Cartossin t1_jebdqty wrote on March 30, 2023 at 7:55 PM

Oh well heck you read my comment before I edited it down to a less confrontational version. I guess I'll never get to hear your answer. When I leave my statements vague enough that they're not wrong, it's your fault for choosing to think I must mean the incorrect thing.

How am I disingenuous? Also there is no hype train. You're being ridiculous on that point. today's language models are world-changingly revoltionary. For my "digital god" comment to be wrong, that revolution must have started and ended in the last 2 years. If you figure it has any momentum at all, the digital gods are coming.