galactic-arachnid t1_je0gdjw wrote on March 28, 2023 at 3:02 PM

I believe that you are looking for the ML community. Though they may not agree with you that programming work will be obsolete in 4 years. If you believe that there are communities (with smart people in them), who aren’t seeing something clearly, perhaps they are, but do not share your opinions. No one can predict the future - I have some very experienced friends in the AI industry who believe we’re in an AI winter, but the hype hasn’t died off yet.

Personally, I like Mastodon. The communities are still a bit smaller so it’s possible to find people with the blend of opinions that you’re talking about.

AsuhoChinami t1_je17bej wrote on March 28, 2023 at 5:53 PM

Sorry, but your friends' opinion is an incredibly stupid and utterly absurd one. Disagreeing about the future is one thing but saying we're presently in an AI winter is one of the most fucking stupid and delusional things I have ever read in my entire life.

galactic-arachnid t1_je1fvxc wrote on March 28, 2023 at 6:46 PM

You’re certainly entitled to that take. I will clarify that they are talking about research, not commercialization. And I’ll grant you that I’m an internet rando who could be making up my so-called “friends”. FWIW, these are people I consider accomplished in the field (AI research positions at big tech, successful AI entrepreneurs, university AI researchers)

I would encourage you to read the research for yourself (perhaps you already have) rather than the marketing output of AI companies. “Attention is all you need” is a good start. And if you’re looking for a strong argument in favor of AI winter, “stochastic parrots” is a good line of inquiry.

I’m not trying to support any particular viewpoint, just adding other perspectives.

AsuhoChinami t1_je1hhn6 wrote on March 28, 2023 at 6:56 PM

Well, I don't want to be rude to someone that has been polite to me, it's just... this "We're currently in an AI winter" is about as credible as a Flat Earth argument. I don't really see the need to dig deeply into a viewpoint that's transparently ludicrous, any more than I would research Moon landing conspiracy theories or watch an hour long video about why Barack Obama was assassinated in 2011 and replaced by a robot that was created by the child of John Wayne Gacy and Abraham Lincoln.

DonOfTheDarkNight t1_je1gncl wrote on March 28, 2023 at 6:51 PM

On average 6 papers on AI are being released per minute (I paraphrased a little, but the actual stats were something like this, correct me if I'm wrong). How is this AI winter?
GPT-4 isn't stochastic parrot

I'm not trying to support any particular viewpoint either.