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Lawjarp2 t1_ja32wjj wrote

Reply to comment by Pug124635 in Sam Altmans, Moores law on everything - housing by Pug124635

Nope. We have a crazy amount of resources. We lack the energy to extract and seperate it. We literally sit on the biggest rock of minerals in the solar system.

People don't need unlimited amounts of anything they ofcourse want it. But if something was unlimited and cheap most people won't use as much. It's like the corporate policy of unlimited leaves, if you give people infinite leaves they actually take less than the sanctioned leaves.

People underestimate how much land there is. Even if we want to limit our total area we can always give everyone more vertical space.

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Pug124635 OP t1_ja34cia wrote

I see what your suggesting. Your saying if we can find away to extract the materials then the amount of materials is basically unlimited and will bring the price down. That makes sense. but then we’ve still got to solve the utilities and road and sewers costs.

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DungeonsAndDradis t1_ja376m6 wrote

Most of this subreddit (I apologize for generalizing) thinks that artificial super intelligence will either be a genie or an oracle.

A genie will just do whatever we ask, without limitations.

"Build me a house on this remote mountain with full power, gas, and running water."

<Genie does nano-fabrication magic and poofs a house into existence.>

An oracle will answer all of our questions, without doing anything itself (imagine ChatGPT times 10,000,000,000,000).

"We need a way to travel independently between the stars."

<Oracle invents hyper-long-range teleportation, and explains in detail how to build it.>

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Lawjarp2 t1_ja372nu wrote

Labour costs will eventually be zero with AI workers.

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BlueShipman t1_ja3osfu wrote

> It's like the corporate policy of unlimited leaves, if you give people infinite leaves they actually take less than the sanctioned leaves.

Nah. Offer up something "infinite" that has some sort of value and it will be stolen and hoarded in minutes. Your analogy is awful and only works because the workers want to impress their boss.

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Lawjarp2 t1_ja3qes1 wrote

What has value when it's supply is infinite or cheap.

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BlueShipman t1_ja46u7h wrote

Name something tangible that is infinite and close to free, is useful and no one wants it to hoard it.

I'm sure in your fantasy land, everything is just built by nanobots controlled by unicorns in the center of a black hole.

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Lawjarp2 t1_ja4b2v6 wrote

Air.

I'm surprised someone is dumb enough to not understand that things lose value when there is lots of supply and it's usefulness is irrelevant if you can't corner a market.

Hoarders hoard to reduce supply. Can't do so in a world which can create ever more stuff. If hoarding even makes sense in a world with crazy supply.

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