Submitted by Pug124635 t3_11cgxzd in singularity
Lawjarp2 t1_ja31joi wrote
Money won't matter. It is very unlikely that society would tolerate some having an obscene amount of land while others don't when individual value addition is zero. AI is about to make everybody equal, equally pointless, and unlike the failed communist attempts at the same, forced equality now is not gonna be an economic disaster.
Environmental-Ask982 t1_ja38vzw wrote
> It is very unlikely that society would tolerate some having an obscene
amount of land while others don't when individual value addition is zero.
You're describing a communism revolution and the current status quo. People are not going to give up their stuff without mass amounts of violence.
Lawjarp2 t1_ja3a3re wrote
No I hate communism. People who are currently calling themselves communist are deluded and can't see that power is the problem and not money. This is capitalism but the whole world and everyone in it are capitalists with equal share and AI is the working underclass. :P
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Yzerman_19 t1_ja3hlrj wrote
North too. I live in the UP of Michigan and it’s basically southern Alabama with warmer coats.
iNstein t1_ja5b7p6 wrote
Because guns are really going to defend against an AI driven attack. Honestly Americans and their guns lol.
Pug124635 OP t1_ja327r5 wrote
Yes but the problem is that there is only a limited amount of resources on the planet and we as humans want unlimited things. For example, if Walmart said tomorrow that food will be free, watch a massive stampede of people grabbing everything and leaving others with nothing. This is why we have a cost mechanism and supply and demand. This is the problem with housing there is only a limited amount of materials and land which is what is stopping everyone from having affordable housing. It’s an unfortunate reality but reality never the less.
Lawjarp2 t1_ja32wjj wrote
Nope. We have a crazy amount of resources. We lack the energy to extract and seperate it. We literally sit on the biggest rock of minerals in the solar system.
People don't need unlimited amounts of anything they ofcourse want it. But if something was unlimited and cheap most people won't use as much. It's like the corporate policy of unlimited leaves, if you give people infinite leaves they actually take less than the sanctioned leaves.
People underestimate how much land there is. Even if we want to limit our total area we can always give everyone more vertical space.
Pug124635 OP t1_ja34cia wrote
I see what your suggesting. Your saying if we can find away to extract the materials then the amount of materials is basically unlimited and will bring the price down. That makes sense. but then we’ve still got to solve the utilities and road and sewers costs.
DungeonsAndDradis t1_ja376m6 wrote
Most of this subreddit (I apologize for generalizing) thinks that artificial super intelligence will either be a genie or an oracle.
A genie will just do whatever we ask, without limitations.
"Build me a house on this remote mountain with full power, gas, and running water."
<Genie does nano-fabrication magic and poofs a house into existence.>
An oracle will answer all of our questions, without doing anything itself (imagine ChatGPT times 10,000,000,000,000).
"We need a way to travel independently between the stars."
<Oracle invents hyper-long-range teleportation, and explains in detail how to build it.>
Lawjarp2 t1_ja372nu wrote
Labour costs will eventually be zero with AI workers.
BlueShipman t1_ja3osfu wrote
> It's like the corporate policy of unlimited leaves, if you give people infinite leaves they actually take less than the sanctioned leaves.
Nah. Offer up something "infinite" that has some sort of value and it will be stolen and hoarded in minutes. Your analogy is awful and only works because the workers want to impress their boss.
Lawjarp2 t1_ja3qes1 wrote
What has value when it's supply is infinite or cheap.
BlueShipman t1_ja46u7h wrote
Name something tangible that is infinite and close to free, is useful and no one wants it to hoard it.
I'm sure in your fantasy land, everything is just built by nanobots controlled by unicorns in the center of a black hole.
Lawjarp2 t1_ja4b2v6 wrote
Air.
I'm surprised someone is dumb enough to not understand that things lose value when there is lots of supply and it's usefulness is irrelevant if you can't corner a market.
Hoarders hoard to reduce supply. Can't do so in a world which can create ever more stuff. If hoarding even makes sense in a world with crazy supply.
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