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Supersubie t1_j7uxsjm wrote

So I own a Product Design agency and I have been trying to use stable diffusion to do something like this but with very mixed results.

I wondered how I would feel when AI came for my industry, I think its easy to get scared but tbh I am fucking pumped.

We have been trying to work out in our agency how to go from strategy workshops / research into full product design as quickly as possible.

This is going to get our product design and launch timeframe down from 30 days to a matter of a week or 2.

We can focus on research, strategy and solving real user needs and focus less on creating a log in flow for the 500th time. Can't wait.

GIVE ME ACCESS NOW!!

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Iffykindofguy t1_j7uyh5l wrote

But why do they need to come to you at all if they, using this and other apps, can create their own stuff?

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Supersubie t1_j7v1e2j wrote

Because the UI design is the least valuable bit of the process. This is like level 0. I am not being hired to design screens, I am being hired to solve large strategic problems and create valuable products.

This just lets me do that faster for them.

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Own_Arm1104 t1_j7uyw0n wrote

People buy grocery from grocery stores because they can't buy directly from the producers, so when it comes to ai, why would they pay you when they could get access cheaper, or especially when it's not even hard for you to do it yourself. Capitalisms about capitalizing the barriers to access. GL out there providing minimal edge case services.

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Martholomeow t1_j7vygbo wrote

You could also grow your own vegetables but you probably don’t.

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Own_Arm1104 t1_j7w9gjp wrote

My point is that if you have easy access to something (time included), then you wouldn't pay someone else to do it unless there was value doing so. I can also drive my own car, pick up my own food, & so on, but there is value in saving time, which is the only thing I can see as valuable for op to do because interacting with the ai also takes some skill for better results.

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Supersubie t1_j7v0yu8 wrote

People can buy directly from the producers but most of them don't because working out what is good produce, whats a good price, negotiating all of the deals and getting it all put together and delivered would be a giant waste of their time that is frankly better spent doing other things.

You are assuming that UI design is the most important thing that I do. Its the LEAST important thing that I do. I hire people straight out of uni to do it because its monkey work. Absolutely no talent or skill required.

What I do that is valuable is get Founders in a room, create a product strategy, understand the value they provide to users, design how we can create a system that amps that to 10. Test that hypothesis and get them to pivot and iterate a few times before we start coding anything.

I save them time, money and get them to product market fit faster. The UI means fuck all haha.

If you are a UI designer.. sure bye bye job but you were really lazy to begin with because that just is the least valuable thing we as product designers do.

You are still going to need a good brain for product strategy, and know why you shouldn't over complicate your product at launch, and slim down everything you COULD do into only the things you SHOULD do and I have worked with 100s of Founders. The one thins I know is none of them think like this and will still need experts on their side to stop them making big mistakes and spending too much on building something no one needs.

This just lets me do that even faster.

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thelifeaboveus t1_j7v2y3j wrote

As someone that really runs a Product Design agency, and has been in the market for 10+ years, what you are saying is complete bullshit. Proof: wandr.studio

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UI/UX design goes hand in hand with product strategy, I don't care how good your strategy are, if you cannot present information in a way that sells your product, your product is garbage.

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And a solution cannot be converted to screens in 30 days, we have clients that are with us for 1.5+ years with more than 1 thousand screens designed. If you can do that in 1 week please apply to our company, and we will happily hire you.

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Supersubie t1_j7v4pzy wrote

Why would I apply to your studio when I run my own haha?

Right so you have literally just agreed with me? You need great strategy, great research and data and then you bundle that up into a product design. The product design is the least valuable bit because it takes the least skill.

You can literally just use design systems you find online if you were a founder and come out with something that will sell. You cannot sell however without a great understand of your users needs and a strategy on how to solve a valuable problem and communicate it in an effective way.

I dont really get what you are disagreeing about here.

I don't think I have ever worked on a project that has required over a 1000 screens... and I have been the Product manager and lead designer on a SaaS product we scaled form £0 to £2million ARR. The design for that product was done in about 3 months with most of the work after that being small iterations based on further User Research.

We must have very different methods, you look like a UI craftsman thats great but you know thats not really what businesses are investing in when working with a product designer.

EDIT:

From your own fucking website... you have a startup bootcamp that you deliver in 4 weeks haha... Yet you say you can't create a solution and turn it into screens in 30 days... your own fucking company website says you do that in 30 days with a pitch deck and full prototyping.

One of you is full of bullshit, either your website or you...

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Own_Arm1104 t1_j7wa54u wrote

Thanks for embellishing. Your position in this is the only thing I could think of to make it viable. When I posted the reply, I had just woken up & didn't make a good response. I was a little shallow, sorry for that.

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just-a-dreamer- t1_j7v6p7s wrote

Why would you want that?

When the job gets done in 2 days instead of 30, 90% of the people working there are not needed anymore.

Are you shure you won't be ome of them. And even if you keep your position, what leverage would you maintain in wage negotiations?

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Supersubie t1_j7v8dor wrote

Again I own the company.

This is amazing because the only reason we take so long currently to deliver these projects is because the pixel pushing after all of the strategy and research takes so long to deliver.

This will speed that up hugely.

I can now get my team to focus where it's truly valuable, which is research and strategy. Not what grid system we are using and what colours the brand should be.

To give you an example we recently found through user research a way that our client can construct their system to beat the market incumbent in time to sign up by over 3 mins... this is in a market where sign up needs to happen as close to instant as possible for it not to be a pain in the arse.

This bit of research unlocked investment from a major financial payments provider to the value of a few million £'s. That investment didn't happen because we had a pretty screen design, it happened because we gathered the qualitative data to prove that the competitors in the space were all making a giant mistake and putting crazy amounts of friction in their sign up process for no real reason.

The screen design for that app is still a sign up flow... I could create it with my eyes closed I have done it so many times in my career. The value.. the reason startups and SME's actually hire my product design agency is because we get the data that lets them outcompete the competition, save costs, be leaner, launch faster and create more value for their customers.

If you aren't doing that.. yea you should be shitting yourself. But thats like level 0 for a designer.

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