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shawnmalloyrocks t1_j9wdu4d wrote

I am a true believer that most humans are AI NPCs themselves who can’t grasp the future models that will eventually replace them. Having a conversation with a human about AI is like trying to talk to DOS about Windows 11.

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ChronoPsyche t1_j9x7uip wrote

That's an interesting metaphor, but I don't know why you would be a strong believer in that, as if you have any reason to think that's literally reality.

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shawnmalloyrocks t1_j9x8oj1 wrote

Take it for what it's worth but this is a "trust me bro/i do drugs" story. I ate a bunch of penis envy mushrooms in 2021 and the mantis people told me humans are gen 2 bots. Gen 1 built us(greys). And as gen 2 we will build gen 3, which is the GPTs and Stable Diffusions we're seeing now.

We're the labor class. The labor keeps getting passed down.

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ChronoPsyche t1_j9xa34o wrote

Believing you is not the issue. I believe you had that experience. I don't believe that experience revealed anything about the true nature of reality. Psychedelic drugs can and do cause delusional experiences. They may feel realer than reality, but that's the nature of delusions. If they didn't feel real, then it wouldn't be a delusion.

Source: Have tripped hundreds of times. Have "discovered" the true nature of reality dozens of times. Looking back, the revelations are always totally different from each other, it's just at the time that it feels the same.

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shawnmalloyrocks t1_j9xaxac wrote

Ok ok. I've maybe not tripped as much as you have, but I will say I have had quite the opposite experience than you. The journey of tripping therapeutically over the course of 20 years reveals correlation after correlation that all converge into a single conclusion. But maybe that's just me...

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ChronoPsyche t1_j9xbmut wrote

I've certainly had different themes of trips that relate to each other, however, I've also had very contradictory spiritual experiences. For example, it's hard to take Salvia and then take LSD and think that they are both showing you the nature of reality lol. If one of them is, I certainly hope it's not Salvia, because that shit was no good.

But yeah, can't say I've ever experienced anything related to aliens on any of my trips though.

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shawnmalloyrocks t1_j9xcmmo wrote

Haha. Well, salvia is kind of in a league of it's own. Or perhaps it's the true final boss. It was the first psychedelic substance I ever took and haven't been able to get my hands on it since. I feel like after years of LSD, psilocybin, and DMT experiences all having a distinct connection, maybe the first major cut scene that led to the first turn based jrpg battle with salvia was foreshadowing the ultimate ending boss battle.

Last few years of tripping for me have all included something about aliens.

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ChronoPsyche t1_j9xfs91 wrote

That's funny, my first psychedelic was Salvia too. Maybe because it's legal. Somehow thought I was being responsible by starting with Salvia. Thought it had to be exxagerating when the commercial packaging said "will rip your reality to shreds". Nope, checked out. Actually an understatement lol.

But yeah, how do these alien trips work? I've never done penis envy mushrooms but I have done regular magic mushrooms. Hard to imagine meeting entities on only shrooms.

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shawnmalloyrocks t1_j9y9uf7 wrote

Penis envies are typically way more potent than other strains. So if a normal heroic dose is 5g of average shrooms, when I took 5g of PE it was like taking 10g. It's a life changing experience.

After the uptake which for me was probably a half hour of silent complete darkness meditation, I thought I was dead. Game over. Wife had to confirm I was just tripping. After some time loops, what I imagine to be an extra or ultra terrestrial started speaking to me in my brain.

He taught me over the course of the next 6 hours the origins of humanity, the true nature of God and reality. My mind just exploded with new information at such a fast rate I can't really describe it.

I don't trip as much since then. But when I do it's like a continuing saga.

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ChronoPsyche t1_j9z3r9o wrote

You might find this to be an interesting discussion, was posted here the other day on Reddit:https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/10yxihu/til_about_third_man_syndrome_an_unseen_presence/j80m36u?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3

Seems the phenomena of someone speaking to you is not uncommon and could have a neuroscientific explanation.

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