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tregtronics t1_jablznq wrote
Plumber. No ai is going to replace a plumber. Skip finance and economics, or do the public sector finance.
Source: currently using algorithms that do economic models for finance that will eventually be ai driven.
Yzerman_19 t1_jaca5cc wrote
It’s true. I flip houses. I don’t know how you cost effectively get a robot to renovate old homes. Maybe parts of the exterior but inside? I’m not so sure. But then I’m no expert.
purepersistence t1_jabsw4d wrote
>no job is safe in the advent of AGI
AI will replace some jobs and not others before it becomes AGI which might be never or hundreds of years. A better LLM is not AGI. AGI requires new algorithms and levels of abstraction that nobody has specifically defined.
turnip_burrito t1_jaasfdp wrote
I don't think it's really worth worrying about. AI won't be able to do your job until AGI, and automation will be brittle and weak until then. By the time AGI rolls around, all information workers will lose their jobs almost simultaneously.
PoliticallyCorrect- t1_jabiws7 wrote
> AI won't be able to do your job until AGI
Current AI + 3 humans will probably replace 10 humans though
turnip_burrito t1_jabrna2 wrote
70% automation?
PoliticallyCorrect- t1_jac1ot1 wrote
Yep, in the short-term, I see it happening in customer support, copywriting, translation, data science, accounting ...
In the medium-term, long before AGI, it will be happening in Law, Software development, healthcare and much more
turnip_burrito t1_jac1qvw wrote
That sounds sensible, or at least it might brings costs down, but it's just kind of nuts.
SurroundSwimming3494 t1_jabxe2q wrote
Current AI leads to a 70% reduction? Yeah, I emphatically disagree.
imlaggingsobad t1_jabuxmi wrote
pretty soon we'll have powerful narrow AIs that will increase productivity by like 5x. Companies won't need to hire as many people.
nutidizen t1_jacenbx wrote
you don't need AGI to increase productivity 10x.
turnip_burrito t1_jae2eii wrote
Do you think unemployment among white collar workers will jump to even 60% in 10 years?
nutidizen t1_jae82h9 wrote
If the AI improvement doesn't halt its pace then yes.
GodG0AT t1_jaaokzw wrote
Tbh just do what you're the most interested in. AI will automate everything. Doesn't matter if it takes ur job a few years earlier or later.
nickiflips t1_jaax9o5 wrote
I would argue it does matter, regulators are always behind on these things. Better to be in one of the last jobs to be automated and avoid the mess of regulators learning how to properly alleviate disruptive pressures. Im sure during the industrial revolution people who adapted more quickly by either a) buying a tractor or b) quickly learning how to do a desk job were better off than those who resisted and still used mule-drawn plows for tilling their fields. Obviously more than just farming was impacted but I digress. (For context prior to the industrial revolution 80% of all people were farmers - today it is less than 1%)
tldr: don’t be the lesson be the end result
HeinrichTheWolf_17 t1_jab18wr wrote
Spread awareness about Universal Basic Income.
spiritus_dei t1_jabd2th wrote
After much debate with ChatGPT here is its advice, "My advice would be to focus on developing skills and knowledge that are unlikely to be automated in the near future. This includes skills that require emotional intelligence, empathy, and interpersonal communication, such as counseling, teaching, social work, and healthcare. It also includes skills that require physical dexterity, such as plumbing, carpentry, and mechanics."
Plumber, carpenter, and mechanic are probably your safest bets.
Different_Muscle_116 t1_jabgixj wrote
Electrician is really solid. The more automation there is, the more work there is for electricians to wire it. Plus data centers will only ever increase in numbers. It takes a lot of electricians to wire a modern massive data center.
spiritus_dei t1_jabh1h5 wrote
I'm surprised more people don't go into skilled trades even without factoring in AI. They have a nice apprentice program where they pay you to learn the skill -- a much better financial model than college.
I suppose medical school is sort of an apprentice program since they actually practice medicine. Law school is completely decoupled and should go back to being an apprentice program -- for the small subgroup of lawyers that survive the AI displacement. Trial lawyers will still be needed to physically show up and argue cases for a long time.
Different_Muscle_116 t1_jabivcs wrote
I’m a double EE dropout who became an electrician 25 years ago and I’ve never regretted it.
CrelbowMannschaft t1_jaa8u34 wrote
Economics education is a pyramid scheme. Finance is good, but companies look for math and physics majors over finance majors, because they need exceptionally strong math skills. If you can find an MBA program with a focus on entrepreneurship, that's probably your best related bet. If you can successfully start and run your own companies, you don't need to worry about a job. All you'd need, then, is a market.
nillouise t1_jaajnkl wrote
If you think AI will develop quickly, and maybe replace your job, isn't it a reasonable strategy not to go to school and save money to living? Or invest money to yourself (which never develop quickly like AI) and fail the game?
YaAbsolyutnoNikto OP t1_jaajxfx wrote
Education is free in my country. I want to get a MSc to improve myself and learn more about the above topics, whilst getting job relevant skills - while they are still useful, at least.
Once I’m inevitably out of a job, I’ll still have the knowledge and achievement.
modern-b1acksmith t1_jabnwu8 wrote
If you live in a country that has free higher education, it is likely your living under a huge tax burden filled with bureaucracy and waste. Tax accounting will be the last to automate because AI drives efficient spending. That money isn't disappearing, its being delivered into the pockets of political figures and government mangers.
nillouise t1_jaao1y6 wrote
Ok, it seem living is an easy game to you, do what you want is enough.
purepersistence t1_jabt29k wrote
>If you think AI will develop quickly,
the dumbest thing you can do is respond to the hype and quit improving yourself.
tigerkingsam t1_jab0nwq wrote
Trust me AI is at least 10-15 years away from automating away work. I use AI algos at my workplace. Economics is usually more theoretical and hard to find work in. Finance is a good career path, a lot of the stuff AI can’t do such has helping with very business specific decision making and querying.
Nukemouse t1_jacebbc wrote
I think the issue is less all work being automated away and more that it will increase efficiency so that less jobs are needed and a large people become unemployed. Even without AI before the pandemic my country had more people seeking jobs than jobs that actually existed.
nomorsecrets t1_jad56ue wrote
This.
I don't understand how so many people are failing to see this point.
The efficiency increase is how AI will initially take real jobs.
Less and less humans will be needed over time.
It will happen this year; it's happening right now.
Nukemouse t1_jad6zts wrote
Businesses already put some of their projected "labour cost reductions" into their annual investor calls.
PurpedSavage t1_jaayu6z wrote
I’m a junior rn and switched from finance to information systems this year cuz of how my outlook on AI changed. What I like about my major is that it’s like 70% economics/business and 30% tech. While I’m not a pure programmer, I sorta act as a translator between the esoteric programming/machine learning jargon and business managers to reach goals. From your situation I’d highly suggest looking into if ur school has a program for somthing like that.
AvgAIbot t1_jaaaona wrote
I would do healthcare, even though it could be automated, I’m sure doctors and medical staff will be protected by governments atleast in the short term. Finance though I don’t see any protections
Lomofre88 t1_jabs0yw wrote
Call me selfish, but I believe it's best to gather as much capital as you can, so you can live off your financial wealth when times will be tough. You'll have the freedom to look around you and adapt to the new world without being dependant on politicians to bail you out.
GoodAndBluts t1_jaa9ofw wrote
i dont have any advice - because nobody knows
Maybe you should ask ChatGPT
SpecialMembership t1_jab8evw wrote
you need the above-normal human intelligence AGI to replace the finance workers. even following the predictions of ray Kurzweil(which is very very optimistic) it may happen only after 2029.
spiritus_dei t1_jabdgz3 wrote
AGI isn't required to replace knowledge workers. We'll see a big swath of programmers replaced by systems that are not AGI.
epSos-DE t1_jabdnie wrote
Finance jobs were already automated to a high degree.
Regardless, the banks found more ways to employ more people.
Classic_Swim5572 t1_jabmcco wrote
Construction management is my bet
CertainMiddle2382 t1_jabs40u wrote
Put AI before finance or economy and you’ll be the last to go.
15 years ago, back then in medicine, elite academics were coming from physics. I said, all medical academics careers are gonna be given to AI-pick your specialty.
Bonus, you don’t actually need to know anything about it, just have some professors and postdocs numbers and will be all. It is so fashionable and obscure everybody will see AI wherever they wish to :-)
imlaggingsobad t1_jabuq1s wrote
Nouriel Roubini thinks his job (economist) will get automated pretty soon. I personally think there are some jobs in finance (trading, investing) that might be around for a while because they require human judgement. But pretty much everything in finance/economics will be affected.
Oblivious-123 t1_jabykhr wrote
The upcoming future is totally based on AI
Hour-Future-4110 t1_jaciiw3 wrote
Learn how to use Ai and either scale up your offerings with it or if you’re a good communicator teach businesses how to use it. It is possible to get paid to replace yourself you just have to wipe some of the doom and gloom off your mindset
Ok_Garden_1877 t1_jacz6xv wrote
Get a masters in computer science, with a focus on AI.
Modern problems require modern solutions.
popupideas t1_jaac5zu wrote
Only advise I can recommend is stepping ahead of the ai issue and learn to use it to your advantage. It is just another tool. Calculators didn’t stop mathematicians. Just because a tool to improve them. I believe “ai” will too
JustinianIV t1_jabj62h wrote
Man people here hype things up way too much, i’ve been a futurist since the 2000s and one lesson I’ve learned time and again is tech will disappoint. LLMs will be a helpful sidekick at most, ain’t no ChatGPT gonna do replace anyone at work. AI freeze for the next decade is the most likely outcome as they hype dies down.
nomorsecrets t1_jad6e5d wrote
I'm sorry but this is the worst hot take I've ever seen.
I understand the desire to be contrarian but the statistical probability of an AI freeze over the next decade is close to zero.
DandyDarkling t1_jaacxnb wrote
I’m in the same dilemma. I honestly feel it’s insoluble because no job is safe in the advent of AGI. Seems to me it’s less a matter of “if” and more a matter of “when”. Best bet is maybe starting your own business and utilizing AI as a tool in that business.