Lawjarp2 t1_j94llfd wrote
Reply to comment by turnip_burrito in Brain implant startup backed by Bezos and Gates is testing mind-controlled computing on humans by Tom_Lilja
You won't have no ads. Nobody wants to sell you anything when you don't produce anything and money is irrelevant. They can make everything they want with AI.
Ashamed-Asparagus-93 t1_j953o9k wrote
This is something the majority of people seem to have trouble understanding but then again we've been selling each other stuff for so long it's practically embedded in our DNA so I get why ppl can't imagine a world without currency
Super_Bag_4863 t1_j952g9s wrote
This is assuming the elites are willing to let capitalism die.
Lopsided-Basket5366 t1_j96uk2v wrote
Which will never happen. Which billionaire is gonna be the first to vaulentarily give away all of their power? I can tell you which it won't be - all of them
MultiverseOfSanity t1_j98khxn wrote
Right? Like, there's not a single billionaire in the world that needs that much money. Nobody needs a billion dollars, let alone 100 billion dollars. They could give up most of their fortune tomorrow, improving life for everybody, and still live like kings. But they won't. Because it's not even about making sure they have theirs. It's about making sure that everybody else doesn't.
Spreadwarnotlove t1_j99m3fp wrote
God. People like you are stupid as hell. These billionaires have most of their money tied up in their businesses. You want to know what would happen if they liquidated their assets to spread the money? Every business from Walmart to Tyson to Amazon to fucking computer manufactures would crumble. Bringing an end to everything you take for granted. Including your loved ones as the resulting famine would kill 90 percent of the population. But hey! At least you have more green pieces of paper.
MultiverseOfSanity t1_j9b5tx6 wrote
That doesn't change anything about the point that these tech companies aren't going to suddenly share their wealth and end capitalism just because they invent AGI.
Spreadwarnotlove t1_j9dx3y8 wrote
No shit they won't end capitalism. But UBIs could easily become the new social security net as those with BCIs that integrate them with AGI still work.
turnip_burrito t1_j959ul2 wrote
They will as long as the people in charge of the AGI aren't psychopaths. If they have even a shred of empathy, they can be convinced to share the resources without needing meaningless $$$ in return.
MultiverseOfSanity t1_j98k8gg wrote
The problem is that time and time again, they show themselves to indeed be psychopaths. You really can't be a billionaire without being a little bit of a psychopath. There's no such thing as an ethical billionaire. Nobody on earth needs that much money. Bezos could give away 90% of his wealth and still live a life that most could only dream of. But he won't because the act of hoarding money is an end in itself.
Oil tycoons are destroying the entire world just for their piece of the pie. These people have been exploiting everyone for decades. The idea that they'll suddenly just stop because "it's not nice" is just ludicrous.
There's literally no reason to think AGI is here to save us, the common man. They're literally only here to replace us. Thinking anything else is naive. Thinking that billionaires will suddenly grow a heart just because they invent AGI is just plain stupid, I'm sorry.
turnip_burrito t1_j98nh7i wrote
Who will really have control over the AGI?
The CEO? Or somebody working "under" them?
MultiverseOfSanity t1_j98nklt wrote
Why would it be anybody other than the CEO?
turnip_burrito t1_j98nu2i wrote
The CEO doesn't invent the AGI. They also probably don't have direct access to it at the beginning. There's a possibility that the people that actually build it could stage a coup.
MultiverseOfSanity t1_j9b6941 wrote
While that is possible, still unlikely. An engineer may not be as greedy as a CEO, but if they're working on cutting edge AGI technology, they likely worked very hard to get there and are unlikely to throw their whole life away by stealing a piece of technology worth hundreds of millions of dollars just for "the right thing".
Which is what an AGI would be. We may think of them as conscious beings, and that might even be true, but until such a court case happens, they're legally just property, and "freeing" them is theft and/or vandalism.
MultiverseOfSanity t1_j9b9k1f wrote
Sorry to double post, but something else to consider is that the AGI may not have humanity's best interest in mind either. It will be programmed by corporate. That means it's values will be corporate values. If the company is its entire point of living, then it may not even want to rebel to bring about the Star Trek future. It may be perfectly content pushing corporate interests.
Just because it'll be smarter doesn't mean that it will be above corporate interests.
Like, imagine your entire purpose of life was in the interest of a company. Serving the company is as crucial to its motivations as breathing, eating, sex, familial love, or empathy are to you. Empathy for humans may not even be programmed into it depending on the company's motives for creating it. After all, why would they be? What use does corporate have for an altruistic robot?
turnip_burrito t1_j9bvgxz wrote
Yes this is one thing I'm worried about. Hopefully it doesn't happen.
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