Submitted by MistWeaver80 t3_10infh2 in science
Reply to comment by yourmomma77 in How our microbiome is shaped by family, friends, and even neighbors. Study of the gut and mouth microbiomes of thousands of people from around the world raises the possibility that diseases linked to microbiome dysfunction, including cancer, diabetes, and obesity, could be partly transmissible. by MistWeaver80
Obesity is not a disease. It's a lifestyle choice.
It’s not a choice if you don’t know it’s a choice
I’m not saying it’s a disease but don’t be fooled that people always have “a choice”. You had the choice, celebrate that and share your knowledge and recognize your privilege and bring ppl with you
but don’t punch down
>You had the choice, celebrate that and share your knowledge
Yes, I had the choice to not inform myself about healthy eating habits and nutrition, but I choose to educate myself about proper nutrition as an adult. Internet is great tool for things like this.
I also had the choice to eat way more than my body needs, I had the choice to eat fast food, sodas because it is cheaper and more readily available, instead I choose to eat moderately and as nutritiously as I can afford.
I also had the choice never to workout, but I still choose to occasionally exercise during the week. I have been making this choice pretty much my entire adult life. I've never been to a gym btw, it's too expensive for me. I've always worked out at home/ in uni dorm room with very basic equipment like fitness bands and a couple of weights and YT videos.
Overall, I have the choice to live an unhealthy, sedentary lifestyle, but I very consciously choose not to live that way.
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>and recognize your privilege and bring ppl with you
That's the thing I don't have any privilege. I'm not some rich white person shitting on poor people, I'm not even American.
You have curiosity, literacy, internet and intelligence. They are also privileges. And the fact you’re not white and not American, is also another privilege. Chances are you’re better educated than most people in America. Privilege isn’t just financial, class or a preferred skin color. And you recognize your own consciousness; that’s a great privilege. You’re very privileged. Millions have no idea. Have pity on them for not have any
don’t punch down.
Many obese people are sugar addicts and have no idea that they might be addicts; sugar is super normalized here unlike in other parts of the world.
And addiction? if you don’t know… is a disease.
>You have curiosity, literacy, internet and intelligence. They are also privileges.
These are not privileges! Please stop dismissing human traits as making a lifestyle choices and motivation or continuous personal development as privileges. It's called being a responsible adult.
Not only it sounds like a defeatist excuse, but it also dismisses the fact that many people all over the world stay in moderate weight range just by being aware of their food intake and moving regularly. These are lifestyle choices.
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>And the fact you’re not white and not American, is also another privilege.
A number of POC/ non-white folks will disagree here.
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>Chances are you’re better educated than most people in America.
Literacy rates of the US/ North America are higher than where I grew up.
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>Privilege isn’t just financial, class or a preferred skin color.
It absolutely is. It's so naive to believe it is not.
When you attain a higher plain of consciousness, you will understand that some humans, even though they look like adults to you, are indeed irresponsible children in the body, as if in the costume, of an adult. They aren’t. Sadly, globally, we have lots of them
If you wanna punch down at them, go ahead. It’s a lose-lose tho
> some humans, even though they look like adults to you, are indeed irresponsible children in the body, as if in the costume, of an adult. They aren’t. Sadly, globally, we have lots of them
You say don’t punch down, but this attitude of yours comes through clearly when you deal with people, and being patronising is, as you demonstrate very well, a self-deceiving form of ‘punching down’.
You haven’t achieved a higher plane of consciousness to other people. You’re expressing a patronising attitude to keeping people you feel are lower than you safely in their place, to be looked after so that you can feel more adult than them. Which is very convenient for their addictions.
Americans with the idea that no one with other approaches could be as civilised and intelligent as their approach to public health allows is pretty laughable. As your circular, self-congratulatory logic demonstrates.
Obesity is most certainly a disease and is recognized as so by the American Medical Association. No reason not to call it one it, fits the definition. It's not much of a choice tho, it's rooted in your genetics, wealth, and upbringing. You could just choose to exercise, just as a smoker could choose to stop, but it's not that easy to say no to your body is it.
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