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Sadmiral8 t1_j4kild6 wrote

Reply to comment by KahuTheKiwi in Avian influenza viruses of the H5 subtype and H7 subtype have caused 2634 human cases around the world, including more than 1000 deaths. These viruses have caused numerous disease outbreaks in wild birds and domestic poultry, and are responsible for the loss of at least 422 million domestic birds. by Unethical_Orange

Veganic farming is also a thing. But saying "go organic not vegan" is such a wrong statement. Like going organic is actually better in preventing pandemics and environmental issues, or that people shouldn't go vegan at all.

Of course if you'd like to present any credible studies on that claim I'd be interested to see them, if you actually think that's the case of course.

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Gl_drink_0117 t1_j4lccmb wrote

I am born and brought up to be vegan. However, with mainly carbs being major part of most of vegan diets, things start getting messed up much sooner in the body. This is from lot of research online over past 4 years. Some research online exists

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Sadmiral8 t1_j4lcxr1 wrote

Sure, care to reference some of that research? Since most research seems to show the opposite on plant-based diets.

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Gl_drink_0117 t1_j4lj8fs wrote

For starters look up Dr berg and Dr Ekberg on YouTube. Tons of issues related to carbs. Some veggies have phytates, lectins and so on. Need to careful there as well. Lot of my family members issues started reducing once we started carbs. Triglycerides came in normal range, so is glucose, and VLDL

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KahuTheKiwi t1_j4lvqcq wrote

You are making the assertion that veganic farming exists. You prove your assertion, don't lazily expect me to do your homework.

Show where and how veganic methods deal with fertility cycling, pest control, etc.

Have the confidence to prove your unsubstantiated assertion.

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Sadmiral8 t1_j4lxnfl wrote

Will do that once you drop the laziness of not backing up your claims with studies.

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KahuTheKiwi t1_j4mw0bl wrote

My presented evidence is 4 comments up.

Your evidence is missing, presumed non-existent.

I will say in my foal and informal training I have never heard of it but accept I do not know everything.

If you have sources stop being half-arsed and present it.

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Sadmiral8 t1_j4mwyll wrote

Not on this post it isn't. I haven't even made any claims that I'd need to back up, just pointed out that veganic farming (which is organic farming without the use of animals) is also an option, if non-organic food production is an issue.

You did not give any references to eating organic being better than going vegan for the issues we discussed about, and you are still avoiding doing so. You made the claim, so provide the evidence. Unless you can't.

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