Adventurous-Quote180 t1_j69m25v wrote on January 28, 2023 at 7:10 PM

Reply to comment by Fromnowhere2nowhere in Researchers has found a link in sleep problems and suicidal thoughts and behaviors. A study found sleep disturbances were prevalent among those with lifetime suicidal ideation or a lifetime suicide attempt. by Wagamaga

Also dont forget that one of the symptoms of depression is problems with falling asleep or waking up at night. When my depression (caused by cptsd, but that was unknown at that time) was beginning i werent able to sleep through the night for months. Only after getting on meds have my sleep normalized.

So im not sure if sleep problems cause suicide, or just both are caused by depression. Correlation isnt causality, you know.

Distinct_Comedian872 t1_j69qbyv wrote on January 28, 2023 at 7:39 PM

If you don't mind me asking, what meds?
(Froma fellow cptsd who has tried many meds.)

Adventurous-Quote180 t1_j6a3wns wrote on January 28, 2023 at 9:14 PM

It was sertraline. To be honest, it was the first (and only) medication i ever tried. It helped a lot at that time. I only took it for 9 months tho. I didnt really solved my cptsd, but my depression symptoms disappered for a while. Next time my depression come back i didnt take any meds. I was kind of too depressed to go to a psychiacrist. I somehow get out of it eventually, but my cptsd symtoms still remained. I mostly dealt with them with therapy (CBT, which i know usually isnt working for cptsd, but for me it was really helpful. I later took part in DBT too. I also read a lot of books on mental health and psychology, so i was basically applying some DBT/CBT techniques long before the first time i took part in therapy) and lifestyle changes. Recently i also was diagnosed with ADHD, so now i took a medication for that.

Now im mostly good, but cptsd still has some effects on me. But applying CBT/DBT techniques constantly (with the help of journaling), still reading books on the topics, and trying to apply healthy lifestyle changes im slowly getting even before.

I also took part part in "unofficial" ketamine/lsd/mdma therapies throughout the years.

This is my 10 year story with mental health.

I dont know i wrote all of that, sorry :D i just wanted to say that i dont think that there i one magical med that solves the problem

Distinct_Comedian872 t1_j6bfrv4 wrote on January 29, 2023 at 3:16 AM

No sorries. Thanks for writing it!
I felt similar. Tried meds, depression dissappear, but was left with pure apathy.
I've been doing a twice weekly DBT since. The results are palpable.

(I'd love if you could share any of the readings/things you find helpful.)

There for sure is not a make it all better pull. Most research shows therapy is more beneficial than meds for PTSD.
(Best results are meds + therapy.)

A very sincere thank you for sharing.

Fromnowhere2nowhere t1_j6ic3sh wrote on January 30, 2023 at 3:24 PM

If DBT speaks to you, you may want to look into ACT. It’s related to CBT and DBT, but less focused on reforming problematic thoughts/feelings and more focused on living a valued life irrespective of the problematic thoughts/feelings.

Russ Harris is great at making ACT palatable to a general audience. Check out some of his YouTube videos (https://thehappinesstrap.com/free-resources/ ) or the just-released updated edition his The Happiness Trap book.

There’s also a DIY workbook that is truly excellent at helping with this stuff, called Get Out of Your Mind and Into Your Life. Highly recommend it.

Hope some of this helps!