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hellrising798 t1_iz2a58i wrote

Its hard to believe that a virus from an animal that we lived with for thousands of years would suddenly and very rapidly cause a global pandamic. Something is not right here.

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andybass63 t1_iz2qzkm wrote

Why? This has happened throughout history.

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junzilla t1_iz3a4tc wrote

Not like this. In history it was an animal virus infecting a human with similar virus and something called antigenic shift occurred in which the virus particles intermingled and formed a novel virus never before seen. This new virus would have the ability to infect that animal plus humans. This is different bc it seemingly infects ALL mammals.

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Detectorbloke t1_iz90356 wrote

>In history it was an animal virus infecting a human with similar virus and something called antigenic shift occurred in which the virus particles intermingled and formed a novel virus never before seen.

That is not true at all. Birds and humans can get bird flu for example.

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Baud_Olofsson t1_iz2fo8c wrote

It's not the least bit hard to believe.

Does SARS ring a bell? HIV? Influenza?

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junzilla t1_iz3a8bx wrote

That's like two animal vectors total. Covid 19 is multi species.

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Baud_Olofsson t1_iz3ujsj wrote

Just HIV is two different animal vectors (and has spilled over from ape/monkey to humans at least a dozen different times). Influenza, like SARS-CoV-2, can infect pretty much any mammal, which is the reason we have the diversity of strains that we do. SARS passed from bats to civets before passing to humans.

Hendra. Marburg. Ebola. Etc.

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junzilla t1_iz4x4c9 wrote

Influenza has different strains. Swine flu, bird flu etc. When it spills over to other animals in antigenic shift is a once in 100 year event. Think Spanish flu. And virologists would say we are actually due for a similar event to occur for influenza specifically. That Spanish flu didn't have multi animal vectors. Swine plus humans. Questionable avian. Not like covid 19 at all.

If a deer has the flu, Hunter John who kills it typically doesn't get deer flu. And if he does, it typically doesn't spread beyond Hunter John. We are bathed in viruses everyday. There are phages for everything like plants and bacteria. Whether we have the receptors for the virus to incorporate into our cells is what determines if we get sick.

Let me be clear. We are talking about a cold virus that jumps into all mammal species. I'm not saying that covid 19 is lab created. I'm saying it doesn't behave like a cold virus and you and I should have some degree of skepticism about a bat origin

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Strazdas1 t1_iz4d68b wrote

To be fair, HIV was because some idiot fucked a monkey.

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Baud_Olofsson t1_iz4hpqp wrote

No it wasn't.

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Strazdas1 t1_iz4mu5z wrote

oh yeah, sure, he claimed he ate the brain instead of had sex. Like anyone believed him.

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