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oboshoe t1_j24csv7 wrote

I would have expected a much much bigger drop in deaths.

That's alot of vaccinated people dying from Covid.

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mbaker117 t1_j24fyo2 wrote

Then how are most deaths from the vaccinated? Makes total sense.

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PsychicChasmz t1_j2559b9 wrote

If bullet-proof vests reduced the chance of death from a gun shot from 100% to 20%, and you fired a machine gun into a crowd of people, 90% of whom were wearing a vest, then most deaths would be people in vests.

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oboshoe t1_j26xx1r wrote

i would have expected 90% plus for that segment.

18% is a slight reduction in the risk of death from covid for that segment

i mean hey - i'll take it. i did. but i thought it was far far more effective based on the messaging i've seen.

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Muscadine76 t1_j29le1v wrote

That’s not what these statistics represent. This is looking at population-level statistics and relative risk of death when contracting Covid, not just among people who were vaccinated.

So, for example, this is comparing death rates in countries with, say, 20% vaccination rates vs 30% vaccination rates. What they found was actually an outsized protective effect: not 10% fewer deaths, but 18%, when 10% more were vaccinated (and not noted in the headline, the booster effect is closer to 33% reduction in deaths). This could in part be because people at highest risk of dying were the ones most likely to get vaccinated (and boosted). It might also be that more vaccinations not only protected people with vaccinations but helped prevent spread of disease and therefore overwhelming of healthcare centers, so more effective care of Covid cases was possible. But there may also be other confounding country-level effects like baseline healthcare system effectiveness.

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