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oboshoe t1_j24csv7 wrote

I would have expected a much much bigger drop in deaths.

That's alot of vaccinated people dying from Covid.

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boooooooooo_cowboys t1_j26wrg7 wrote

It’s not an overall 18% drop in mortality. A 10 percentage point increase in vaccination leads to an 18% drop in mortality.

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oboshoe t1_j26xx1r wrote

i would have expected 90% plus for that segment.

18% is a slight reduction in the risk of death from covid for that segment

i mean hey - i'll take it. i did. but i thought it was far far more effective based on the messaging i've seen.

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Muscadine76 t1_j29le1v wrote

That’s not what these statistics represent. This is looking at population-level statistics and relative risk of death when contracting Covid, not just among people who were vaccinated.

So, for example, this is comparing death rates in countries with, say, 20% vaccination rates vs 30% vaccination rates. What they found was actually an outsized protective effect: not 10% fewer deaths, but 18%, when 10% more were vaccinated (and not noted in the headline, the booster effect is closer to 33% reduction in deaths). This could in part be because people at highest risk of dying were the ones most likely to get vaccinated (and boosted). It might also be that more vaccinations not only protected people with vaccinations but helped prevent spread of disease and therefore overwhelming of healthcare centers, so more effective care of Covid cases was possible. But there may also be other confounding country-level effects like baseline healthcare system effectiveness.

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-SpaceAids- t1_j25r5gs wrote

18% is pretty good but I thought it would be a lot more than that as well

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the-other-car t1_j26jvmo wrote

18% decrease in deaths after an increase of just 10% in vaccinations is more than what I'd expect.

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-SpaceAids- t1_j26koix wrote

oh I actually read the title wrong, yeah you're right that's pretty damn big

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oboshoe t1_j25rbe6 wrote

Yea yea.

I'm 18%. That's a lot of lives saved.

I just wish the number was higher.

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