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bit1101 t1_iwmbm96 wrote

Reply to comment by Alaishana in New psychology research rebuts Sigmund Freud's "wrecked by success" hypothesis: People with exceptionally successful careers tend to be healthier than their less successful peers by HeinieKaboobler

So psychology is still accepted in science.

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Any_Geologist9302 t1_iwmgzhi wrote

Mainstream psychology doesn’t accept Freud’s work as scientific. That shouldn't be a controversial statement for anyone who took an intro psych class, but some people seem to take exception to it.

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Strazdas1 t1_iwp9sch wrote

Anyone who took an intro psych class has only see n a caricature version of Freud. Mainstream psychology is based on psychoanalisis which was started by Freud.

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Any_Geologist9302 t1_iwry9ae wrote

>Mainstream psychology is based on psychoanalisis

The dominant paradigm is cognitivism, which does not trace its theoretical roots to psychoanalysis or Freud.

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Alaishana t1_iwmdrre wrote

Well, like everything to do with humans, or worse, human behaviour, or even worse than that, human thought, psychology tries to tackle an extremely complex field, where the number of variables is far too big to allow for easy if-then relations.

One of the soft sciences, definitely.

The word 'science' derives from an indo-european root meaning 'to cut' (sky, ski, scissors), and it is very difficult, maybe impossible, to cut thoughts into easy pieces that lend themselves to analysis.

https://www.snhu.edu/about-us/newsroom/social-sciences/is-psychology-a-science#:~:text=A%20Scientific%20Discipline,human%20behavior%20and%20mental%20processes.

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bit1101 t1_iwmelzd wrote

I can glean from your writing that you are very fond of your own thoughts.

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tornpentacle t1_iwmmzrn wrote

The opinion expressed in his comment is pretty well representative of the opinion of basically every modern researcher, even in psychology. The only people who still like Freud are Freudian psychoanalysts, who are taking advantage of his continued romanticization in the popular imagination.

For the love of God, if you interpreted that person's comment as narcissistic, read one of Freud's works...you'd think he was touching himself fervently while he wrote it.

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6d86d9 t1_iwmumwr wrote

I can determine through empiricism that the smell of your own arouses a latent desire for copulation with maternal figures.

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bit1101 t1_iwmx3kc wrote

Not all maternal figures. Just your mum.

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Alaishana t1_iwmoukx wrote

I like to put some effort into what I write, yes. It is rather difficult to convey one's meaning in the shorthand style that prevails on the web.

I'm sorry if I have overtaxed you. You can look up words you don't know, I'll wait.

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tornpentacle t1_iwmqrar wrote

I was with you until the end...you didn't seem too haughty until the ad hominems :-p that person just didn't have a real argument. But don't get baited! These people are fanatics. Freud's ideas are easy to understand, which is probably why they're still so popular. Most people don't seem to like being told that their understanding of things is wrong. For some reason laypeople who are "into psychology" get especially defensive about Freud and Jung, even though they've been considered irrelevant by the field for decades and decades.

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bit1101 t1_iwmvzid wrote

The extent of my love for Freud extends as far as occasionally saying 'Freudian slip'. I was just responding to the comment.

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decolored t1_iwmitpp wrote

Psychology is a complicated hypothetical chamber of variables. The best of us use it pretty well and the majority of us are simply products to be assessed

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kuyo t1_iwmjacx wrote

Boy, Freud would have loved to study you. Freud is much more than a fantasist, which is why he will be immortalized in human history. You will be forgotten rather quickly.

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tornpentacle t1_iwmmjwo wrote

Freud would have loved to study that guy, and his unconscious biases (against someone with a negative opinion of him, Freud) and his irrational, fevered brain would have led to him saying that guy really just wants to sleep with his own mother.

There's a reason science ignores him today. Literally the only thought of Freud's that has carried over is the concept of the subconscious mind—that mental events occur of which people are not aware.

If you are not aware of how thoroughly the rest of Freud's ramblings have been debunked, then I'm afraid you haven't been exposed to even a 101-level of information.

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noweezernoworld t1_iwniyj6 wrote

>a 101-level of information

And I’m pretty sure that’s where you stopped based on your uninformed commentary

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splasherino t1_iwwi9si wrote

Its called "unconscious", not "subconscious". Since you claim to know so well about how Freud is wrong about everything else, it's somewhat surprising that you don't even know the correct word for what you accept him to be right about.

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Any_Geologist9302 t1_iwn0be2 wrote

>which is why he will be immortalized in human history

Yes - he'll be immortalized for what he inspired, not for contributions to scientific literature.

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