I think what I'm saying is that the personality of the participant will at least in part determine whether they interpret a particular incident as adverse, and will also be a factor in whether they suffer from PTSD as a result. So it's not entirely the actual incident which is the issue, but also the response to the incident.

self-report doesn't necessarily mean they were asked if they "felt" they had particular conditions; the wording of the question matters heavily (e.g. it could have said "have you ever been diagnosed," "have you ever suspected," "has any friend or family member ever told you," etc which would all have dramatically different effects)

edit: exact wording for the study was "Have you ever been diagnosed with, or treated for, any of the conditions" with a set of nine conditions participants could select. I suppose people could lie or misremember, but it's not particularly subjective.

You seem to be implying that personality is purely environmentally conditioned. This would imply there is no genetic element to it. I doubt that, I think both play a part.

Change that to guilt and shame, and you're dead on.

Girls are more often victims, iirc. Which makes sense Imo as there are more straight men when it comes to sexual violence. Not saying that under reporting for men/boys isn't a thing.

Reminds me of this: "Pride isn't the opposite of shame, it is the source" - Iroh

I hope therapy is helping. I found one way to heal childhood trauma is to pinpoint the earliest memory the abuse started, the one that really made you react or think “this is not right.” And imagine yourself as 7yo and forgive your abuser. Most trauma comes from acts that our ego cannot fathom as forgivable bc the acts come from behavior that is logically senseless & unfair for a child to experience. Unfortunately people are weak, gone thru sh*t & aren’t always the best decision makers. When no one can rationalize what you went thru, ironically depression becomes the only anecdote; like the only thing that makes sense. Our ego understands something not right is happening & we internalize the unfairness.

A child’s most basic need for nourishment aside from food & hydration is love. And when it’s given to us in the most atrocious, unfair way, we don’t understand how we can accept that kind of love.

So with the exercise, I would first be in a quiet place, imagine being your 7yo self, face your abuser (as they were then) & say “I know you were trying to do your best with the tools you had then and I forgive you.” If they were an addict I’d say “I know you were not strong enough to make the best decisions & you depended on [substance] to make those decisions for you, they weren’t helping you make the best decisions for me but I forgive you because I realize now you were weak, and not the strong person I thought you were, and you believed the [substance] was good for you & would make the best decisions for you with the resources you had at that time.” Something along those lines. If you are open too it, this exercise helps a lot. Bc most traumatic experiences are unkind, to counteract, forgiveness is a powerful act of kindness & a strong anecdote to heal.

Same here, but I can't remember anything else.

I think what happens is that our minds only remember the dangers in our lives.

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Me: Makes a joke about obvious cause and effect

You: gets offended and tells me to publish a paper about obvious cause and effect despite there already being hundreds (one of which is literally linked in the post on which is being commented on)

Not once did I say or imply that I “know it all”.

Edit: Pointing out that many studies are conducted to prove thing we already know to be true was the intent of the original comment.

Oh absolutely I’m not saying we just accept that trauma is normal that’s the point. For too long we’ve accepted a lot of not normal things to be normal. That’s why the book by Gabor mate is called “the myth of normal”. I just started reading it and I can’t put it down.