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cosmoboy t1_iw3luyf wrote

Great. Add it to Semeglutide (of course there are better ways, I'm not saying add it to the water, some people need the help though) , drop the cost to something affordable and then watch the cost of healthcare plummet?

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GlowGreen1835 t1_iw3ovew wrote

Depends where you are. Here in the US cost stays the same, it's just the profit that skyrockets.

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cosmoboy t1_iw3pd8s wrote

Well, that's what I mean. I am in the US and something needs to change.

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pessamisitcnihalism t1_iw42gn5 wrote

Until healthcare in the US isn't just another business I doubt it'll ever change

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jonathanlink t1_iw5g08k wrote

They have. It’s called Rybelsus. It requires more of the active drug per dose than the injectable to survive the digestive tract.

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falubiii t1_iw5dp8n wrote

Perhaps useful for long acting insulins, but I assume the delay in entering and being absorbed in the GI tract would make this pretty infeasible for short acting insulins, which comprise the majority of shots for type 1 diabetics at least.

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macncheesee t1_iw6ysw9 wrote

Not sure how quickly it would be absorbed. But even rapid acting insulins like Novorapid take 2-3 hours to take full effect.

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falubiii t1_iw7a9hy wrote

That’s not really a good way to describe it. They start taking effect much sooner and their action is usually finished by ~3 hours. For stopping blood sugar spikes, the faster it begins working the better.

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lizzie1hoops t1_iw6wchz wrote

Right, for a type 1 diabetic it's difficult to see how this would work. If you use an insulin pump, it provides a basal rate of insulin delivery as well as bonuses, as needed. Would the idea be to take an oral long-acting insulin as well as pills of short-acting insulin as needed? At some point, this becomes a lot of pills.

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Yotsubato t1_iw5fr2v wrote

Meanwhile I have RA and prefer taking meds with needles (once every two weeks) instead of having to take a pill daily.

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coffeebuzzbuzzz t1_iw5gf7p wrote

I take a once weekly injection, would love to replace it with a pill instead.

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LateDaikon6254 t1_iw6l5dt wrote

Anything that allows needles to be avoided is a good thing. I spent 2 years in dialysis and the needles were so painful.

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booney64 t1_iw5ujss wrote

But Americans won’t be able to afford any of it

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spike4379 t1_iw6bb7i wrote

I'm hoping this research becomes cheap and affordable, though it wouldn't surprise me if some of the bigger pharma companies buy it out somehow and burry it.

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Extension-Ad-2760 t1_iw52r1m wrote

Apparently, fear of needles contributes greatly to anti-vaxx feeling.

The real reason many people don't vaccinate is because they're scared of the needle. As they know this is a childish reason, they then accept anti-vaxx conspiracies as a way to justify it to themselves.

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Purple_Mo t1_iw5dbt5 wrote

Now that's a conspiracy theory

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Extension-Ad-2760 t1_iw5dt8y wrote

No, there has been actual research on this. Found it on this sub.

Can't find the paper right now unfortunately, but I have found some other related articles: https://theconversation.com/over-half-of-adults-unvaccinated-for-covid-19-fear-needles-heres-whats-proven-to-help-161636

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-58086377

1 in 10 people fear needles, and half of those that haven't vaccinated do so. That is a massive correlation. This technique could be massively beneficial: at best it could reduce unvaccinated population by half.

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Yotsubato t1_iw5fves wrote

Which is crazy since high gauge needles are essentially painless. It’s the preservatives in the vaccine itself which are painful.

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secret_identity88 t1_iw5s2y3 wrote

The speed at which whatever volume of solution also can contribute to pain at the injection site. Faster injection of more solution hurts more

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Dredly t1_iw5jz2t wrote

Diabetics do not have a fear of needles... if they do they got over them really quick...

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LostOldAccountTimmay t1_iw6ub3e wrote

I don't think the point of this comment was specific to diabetic patients, and more about lifting barriers to vaccination, improving vaccination rates

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eiscego t1_iw6lsh2 wrote

I'm a type 1 diabetic with multiple tattoos and definitely not anti vax... I'm still afraid of needles

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tornpentacle t1_iw6idvl wrote

That is why clinical trials are conducted. New drugs don't make it to the market if they are dangerous.

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matts1 t1_iw8t6ab wrote

Literally taking what I said from a commercial on tv for a drug that is already on the market. And I have heard on many occasions that deaths have a occurred from complications after taking a particular drug.

Every drug commercial you see has side effects that seem like trading one thing for another. Granted the bad effects only apply to probably 2% of users, but still.

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RomTheRapper t1_iw5apay wrote

Ah yes, as we know, science is only capable of focusing on one thing at a time.

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Acasualpotatoe21 t1_iw7ss62 wrote

Of course dude, like what do you think, that there are multiple scientific institutions? What?!?

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Alphadice t1_iw63fo9 wrote

I dont know about you but think about it this way instead of being so negative.

If I was a severe Type 1 diabetic I could be having to wear a constant blood monitor and give my self shots with every meal.

Then someone came along and just said here take this pill once a day.

Does that really not sound like an improvement to you?

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KiwasiGames t1_iw6f37r wrote

Not at all. There is still plenty of research into complete cures.

But in the meantime there is also opportunities to improve quality of life.

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