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colundricality t1_ixrq9a5 wrote

Ah, The Marijuana Herald. Move over, New York Times.

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MeanCorpuscle t1_ixryp75 wrote

Thanks for the link. Decent study. As with most cannabis research it shows real but small benefits that are not broadly generalizable. The take home is that for most people marijuana is purely recreational. If you happen to have tuberous sclerosis, it’s marginally good news.

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p5eudo_nimh t1_ixs3j1v wrote

Some veterinarians are suggesting it for dogs with seizure conditions. It seemed to drastically reduce seizures for a family dog in the last few years. From 2 or 3 a day to once or twice a month.

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NakedCameTheNude t1_ixs6esu wrote

Wasn't an entire strain called "Charlote's Web" developed to help with epilepsy?

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lilrabbitfoofoo t1_ixs8iak wrote

Don't just attack the messenger. Of course, one should question potential bias. But always look at the source of the data.

Which, as others have pointed out, is 100% legit, scientifically speaking. :)

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northcoastroast t1_ixshs61 wrote

I have a small Pomeranian that has seizures that last for 10 to 20 minutes. I can squirt a tiny amount of CBD mixed with MCT oil into his mouth and he calms down within 2 to 3 minutes and has fewer side effects from a prolonged seizure.

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gart888 t1_ixslbin wrote

I have a dog that's had pretty severe epilepsy for the last 7 years. We've had her on 5 different epilepsy drugs, and eventually settled on a specific mix that seems to work well for her.

We considered CBD, but a medical dosage of it is insanely expensive compared to traditional drugs. This article (and the paper's abstract) doesn't mention the doses used in this study.

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ShortBrownAndUgly t1_ixsvmyi wrote

Isn’t epidiolex already a prescribed medication? Meaning we already knew it was helpful?

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nubsauce87 t1_ixsxhm8 wrote

... We've known that for decades...

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triangle60 t1_ixt6yw0 wrote

The NIH isn't the publisher of these studies. PubMed is effectively just a search engine for a wide range of documents. The NIH isn't affiliated with the studies PubMed hosts, so there are also occasionally studies on it of questionable repute. That being said, PubMed is still a great source of accurate studies and I have no opinion about this particular study. I just think the affiliation with the NIH needs to be clarified.

Edit: looking at the article's citation, it looks like this study was published by the Journal of the Brazilian Medical Association.

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hochizo t1_ixtabp5 wrote

1000% anecdotal, but my dog developed seizures in the last 18 months. Despite treatment, they were increasing in frequency, to the point that she had 8 seizures in the month of August. We asked the vet about CBD, they said "it can't hurt," so we bought a vial and have been giving her 2 doses a day. She's had one seizure since she started it almost 3 months ago. To go from 8/month to 1 over 3 months is honestly remarkable.

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gart888 t1_ixtb6jj wrote

How much does it cost there?

CBD oil typically costs $0.10 per mg doesn’t it?

Medicinal doses are about 2 mg per pound, twice per day. So for your 70 pound dog that’s a cool $800 a month. Too much money for us.

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TDP_Equinox t1_ixts98n wrote

I'm considering this for my dog as well. Has been having seizures since September, last week he had a 1.5 hour long seizure as we drove him to the nearest animal hospital.

The meds are helping, but he does have breakthroughs.

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horrificmedium t1_ixtvfm4 wrote

CBD works for most patients up to 18 months on average. Then in some patients tonic seizures will come back. 1:1 THC CBD solutions address seizures near on completely.

I had the pleasure of welcoming Dr Evan Lewis, a Canadian paediatric epilepsy specialist at a medical cannabis conference I was working. There are children in the UK that have been on epidiolex, GW’s CBD product, who have shown a level of regression, after a couple years on it. They need a whole plant extract, and many who aren’t with the private clinics, or on Project Twenty21 struggle.

If you’re based in the UK and are struggling with access or affordability of medical cannabis, please refer to Project Twenty21 https://www.drugscience.org.uk/twenty21/

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Bass-ape t1_ixtvi99 wrote

You can buy pure CBD crystals on many online stores for 10 dollars a gram or less. I do this and make my own oils for my dog and it makes it incredibly affordable.

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jayhasbigvballs t1_ixvq7c1 wrote

One of the really big issues around CBD and it’s ability to reduce seizures is the fact that it’s always taken with other antiseizure medications (ASMs) in studies. Now, on the surface, this isn’t a problem for most ASMs, until you realize that CBD has a very potent effect on CYP enzymes, which many ASMs are metabolized by. As a result, the increased bioavailability of antiseizure medications is seen when CBD is administered. Does this have an impact on seizure outcomes? Are we inappropriately assuming CBD has a direct antiseizure effect? Unfortunately many of these studies can’t address that question.

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