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Zozorrr t1_iycukfs wrote

Reply to comment by contrabardus in Bats use same techniques as death metal singers to vocalize, study finds by IslandChillin

Irrelevant- temporally one was clearly first. So when comparing saying something is “the same as” the comparative order is implied. Poorly worded title.

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Cerebral_Discharge t1_iycxauq wrote

But the study is about bats. Wording it the other way makes it about the death metal singers.

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contrabardus t1_iyd1rxa wrote

False.

This is a like to like comparison, not a cause and effect one.

In like to like, order doesn't matter.

It's "A" is the same in some regard as "B" and the order of "A" and "B" is irrelevant in that kind of statement.

It is not "A" caused "B" in which case order does matter.

If I say oranges and limes are both citrus, it does not suggest that oranges came first, or that limes "learned how to be a citrus" from oranges. In either order the statement means the same thing.

This is the exact same situation.

What you're suggesting is like saying that if I say that "Bats and Birds both use wings to fly", it suggests that Bats copied their wings from Birds, and that bats existed before birds did.

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