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valleyof-the-shadow t1_ivcqywt wrote

Doesn’t the body going in to ketosis and you start utilizing fat for energy? We’ve been doing a high protein/ fat vegetable diet for a while and I was surprised at the increase in energy for workouts as well as the loss of a lot of body fat at the age of 60.

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MrSarcastica t1_ivd33ok wrote

It says over a 24h period, so not likely to be in ketosis yet. Usually takes about 3 days for your body to go into full ketosis.

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TheTiniestPeach t1_ive60fm wrote

Was I going into keto after fasting for 48 hours straight? What about intermittent fasting?

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MrSarcastica t1_ive6god wrote

Fasting for 48 hours would put you into keto but you would be loosing musclemass in the process of getting there so I wouldn't recommend going that route. Intermittent fasting doesn't really put you into keto unless your also cutting out carbs.

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-Kibbles-N-Tits- t1_ivfb3bs wrote

Coming from someone already thin and athletic, as long as you move a lot during your fast you’re going to lose a neglible amount of muscle/strength

Nothing noticeable at least

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ladida- t1_ivev3yc wrote

I have seen a guy on YouTube who made a video about studies on intermittent fasting and these study do not support your view. They showed that you loose about as much muscles mass as any other diet.

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MrSarcastica t1_ivgwcrh wrote

True like I said if you're not in ketosis you will lose muscle mass. If you're already in ketosis you will minimise you muscle loss. Keto is the only diet where you can actually lose fat and gain muscle at the same time.

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ladida- t1_ivh6agj wrote

Intermittent fasting doesn’t equal an ketogenic diet afaik

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MrSarcastica t1_ivh9wfy wrote

No it doesn't, but it'd often used while on keto to maximise effects of the diet.

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TheTiniestPeach t1_ive76ut wrote

So fasting is a bad idea in general? Cus many people practice it. I feel like it also really helped me to lose weight and go from obese to overweight.

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Strazdas1 t1_ivjr7jt wrote

>So fasting is a bad idea in general?

In a very generalized broad terms - yes. May be different for individual situations.

Long term habit change is what you want to do.

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MrSarcastica t1_ive7f3g wrote

I mean fasting can definitely help if your only goal is to loose weight. But if you want to put on muscle as well I wouldn't be fasting for long periods.

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osoALoso t1_ivf0hpc wrote

When I did keto I had more long term energy, but had a remarkable deficiency in explosive short Burst energy.

On my cheat days I was easily increasing bench press by 15 to 20 pounds in my reps and would bump my max by 35 or so pounds.

Speed in running was down but longevity was up.

Anecdotal but it's what I noticed on 6 months of keto.

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dabeawbeaw t1_ivfregr wrote

I did keto recently for about 2 years. I definitely had more energy during my workouts. I went back on a regular diet and my workouts haven’t been the same so I decided to go back on keto. Not so much the high fat part but mainly lower carbs and more protein.

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valleyof-the-shadow t1_ivghr7f wrote

That’s interesting. I tend to just eat meat, vegetables and fruit and a whole bunch of different herbals. All as natural and organic as I can afford. My grocery bill is about the same now that I’ve cut out all that processed stuff.

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