TheRightening t1_it5nxjp wrote on October 21, 2022 at 2:47 AM

Reply to comment by 18Apollo18 in Protein quality of soy and the effect of processing: A quantitative review. This quantitative review confirms that the majority of soy products have high protein quality scores. by grandlewis

Vegan men, carnivorous men, pescatarian men that eat soy have higher levels of serum estrogen than those that avoid it altogether. https://www.montana.edu/hhd/graduate/dietetics/blog_posts/Soy_hormonal_health.html

18Apollo18 t1_it6bk86 wrote on October 21, 2022 at 6:43 AM

The study referenced literally found reduced estrogen levels in the soy milk group.

Estrone concentration tended to decrease in the soymilk-supplemented group [regression parameter β (SE) = −0.003352 (0.00226)] and increase in the control group [β (SE) = 0.003228 (0.00223)] over the study period. None of the other hormones measured showed any statistical difference in changing patterns between the two groups.

Nagata, , Takatsuka, N., Shimizu, H. The effect of soymilk consumption on serum estrogen and androgen concentrations in Japanese men. Cancer Epidemiol Biomarkers. March 1, 2001 10(3) 179-184.

TheRightening t1_it7t9lk wrote on October 21, 2022 at 3:41 PM

Estrone and Serum Estrogen are not the same thing. The confirmation bias is cute though.

18Apollo18 t1_it8489j wrote on October 21, 2022 at 4:53 PM

>Estrone and Serum Estrogen are not the same thing

Are you missing the part where they said no difference was found in any other hormones measured??

Also estrone is one of the 3 types of estrogen commonly tested in the blood

There are many types of estrogen, but only three types are commonly tested: Estrone, Estradiol, and Estriol

https://medlineplus.gov/lab-tests/estrogen-levels-test/

>The confirmation bias is cute though.

How the hell is it conformation bias? That's literally the study cited by the source you sent to me