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RunRevolutionary9019 t1_isn2f0b wrote

I had a gnarly ten year eating disorder. About ten years after it was over I went on vacation with a student of mine and her parents.

They are a bit bigger. I’m tiny. Holy hell they were feeders. I didn’t care because at that point my eating disorder was so far behind me I knew I’d lose the weight quickly but man they fattened me up in ten days!

I can spot an emotional eater from a mile away. I so wish I could give them what I have an show them another way.

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Desert_Fairy t1_isn62os wrote

In my defense, he is clinically underweight!

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Dragonmodus t1_isn6nwa wrote

This is what I come to r/science for.

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Grapesoda5k t1_isn7ats wrote

Diabolical people in this world.

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Chisle_ t1_isn86uu wrote

“Here eat this so I don’t have to”

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greeneggsandstuff t1_isnbk9c wrote

You need a paradigm shift. The key to quitting anything is to understand you don’t need it to be well. That starts with healing from trauma then practicing living differently. Then you learn to not identify with that version of you. It isn’t the fundamental you; it’s a way of being that can be changed. Source I’ve quit smoking, drinking, and all drugs. All of which I’ve abused.

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MarkBenec t1_isngkc2 wrote

My dad was a big ‘Hey, eat this!’ guy. Don’t think he was being malicious in any way though.

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t0b4cc02 t1_isnr3ge wrote

> had a gnarly ten year eating disorder

> my eating disorder was so far behind me I knew I’d lose the weight quickly

> I could give them what I have

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running_wizard t1_iso1hea wrote

As a german (Dieter being a first name in germany), I was weirdly confused for a moment...

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MiseALepreuve t1_isokj1m wrote

I mean, how long term are we talking? It’s been effective for me so far, but obviously by the time I’m 50+ and can’t exercise as effectively I’ll need to have cemented good eating habits.

I find it far easier to deal with mental health issues when I’m physically healthy, though

Keeping only healthy food around is just good advice, tho.

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dr-freddy-112 t1_isokz4d wrote

My point is that the "healthy emotional recovery" part pays dividends long term because emotional eating is easier to control. It's also easier to form healthy exercise habits rather than "binge exercise".

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WalnutWoodLooksGood t1_ison6zt wrote

"Dieters"..? Every human being should follow a proper diet, the lack of basic understanding of how nutrition works is astonishing, even worse are the trends that get built around it and enforce very unhealthy obsessions.

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RunRevolutionary9019 t1_isosd2c wrote

Read Geneen Roth’s books, go to one of her things if she still does them. Go to group therapy. Exercise moderately. Eat whatever you want. Refuse to judge yourself for anything you eat. Eat emotionally but if your going to do it do it full on. Comfort yourself for real and again refuse to guilt trip yourself about it. Say your name, that your happy with your weight, and your ideal weight ten times daily. Yoga is good. Chinese medicine helped. I think it sad also about my being done. I was over it and didn’t care if I ended up fat so I did whatever I was told. I gained twenty pounds and lost it again within a year and lost my urge to binge. Happy to talk. It’s been about 22 years since I let my eating disorder go.

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RunRevolutionary9019 t1_isotvl5 wrote

Read Geneen Roth’s books, go to one of her things if she still does them. Go to group therapy. Exercise moderately. Eat whatever you want. Refuse to judge yourself for anything you eat. Eat emotionally but if your going to do it do it full on. Comfort yourself for real and again refuse to guilt trip yourself about it. Say your name, that your happy with your weight, and your ideal weight ten times daily. Yoga is good. Chinese medicine helped. I think it sad also about my being done. I was over it and didn’t care if I ended up fat so I did whatever I was told. I gained twenty pounds and lost it again within a year and lost my urge to binge. Happy to talk. It’s been about 22 years since I let my eating disorder go.

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greeneggsandstuff t1_isp83zd wrote

You’re welcome :) When it came time for me to quit drinking (I worked on quitting for years) I told myself that if I wanted the alcohol, it would always be there, so not having it didn’t mean I would lose it forever. That sounds kind of weird, but what I was doing was finding a path out of the relationship with it, saying to myself I think I’m better without it, and maybe I CAN live without it, so I’ll give it a go to walk away for at least a little bit.

The result of that was realizing how bad the relationship between alcohol and body and alcohol and mind is. I believed I could never be without it in some form then I realized it was only my enemy. The ensuing mental clarity and physical wellness was more than I imagined it could be, and now there’s no way in hell I’ll ever go back. It’s just too good on the other side.

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greeneggsandstuff t1_isp9rnu wrote

I’m really glad that was helpful for you to hear :) Whatever it is that you want to let go of, you can, and you will thrive because of it.

I remember growing up and hearing adults talking about quitting smoking. There were all these simple ways of thinking about it. “Well, it’s an oral fixation. You just replace it with suckers.” Or things like “It because it’s social. It’s hard to not go out for a smoke with your friends.” And that’s true to an extend for some, but what everyone was really afraid to see, to admit was that for many of them it was the internally festering trauma of their personal lives that kept them needing to smoke.

It’s the same with every addiction, and there is a path out.

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watchcat123456 t1_isrgpo1 wrote

So they'll look better by comparison? GENIUS!!!!!

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WalnutWoodLooksGood t1_isri70w wrote

Yes, that's ludicrous. If one is overweight they should obviously work towards losing the weight but following a trendy diet is almost never the way to go. Diets are meant to be sustainable and your body does not care whether it's in keto or not if it's still getting calories in a surplus

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ginga_bread42 t1_isrjkex wrote

Yeah but changing the way you think about and relate to food is actual work and hard. Doing some crazy fad diet to see results quickly is easy. It's a short term "punishment."

Most people realize they need to move more and eat healthier. So they do that. Then there's a percentage of people who have weird relationships with food. That's a lot to unpack and they may not even realize that's the root of the problem. Applying moral good/bad to food instead of just viewing it as food is an example of that.

I'd argue fad diets are never the way to go. Most people gain the weight back plus some. Then they feel shame and guilt. Some fad diets are promoting disordered eating. Some are flat out miserable even if they work, but no one will do it long term.

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WalnutWoodLooksGood t1_isrpplv wrote

>Yeah but changing the way you think about and relate to food is actual work and hard.

That's mostly because people, especially older (30s+, can't say I feel old yet but still) lack the basic ability to google. Their sources of information aren't reliable or well explained but they might perceive them as such. Following a diet shouldn't be hard and one planned by an actual nutritionist with the client and with a realistic goal in mind isn't going to make you miserable either.

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ginga_bread42 t1_iss1944 wrote

You're right but also oversimplying the problem a lot of people have. No amount of science, research and nutrition knowledge is going to help you if your problem with food is how you relate to it. Food isn't just food to people. It requires extra steps and maybe even therapy.

I'm not someone who feels things like guilt for eating certain things. I dont feel that I'm good or bad depending on what I ate. For the people that do, changing their diet is more difficult because they have this other mental component. Emotional eaters aren't going to logic their way into health without also dealing with the emotional aspect.

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WalnutWoodLooksGood t1_iss26k9 wrote

I'm not talking about addiction, I'm talking about nutrition. If you have mental issues it's obviously not going to be fixed by a google search, if you're obese and want to lose weight on the other hand, that will.

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