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MyBunnyIsCuter t1_itzgl86 wrote
Well,looks like we'll live forever, then - many of us are struggling just to keep a roof overour heads,much less food
dillrepair t1_itzicmw wrote
I mean… i know that I think a lot more clearly when I don’t eat for a while. Very subjective of course. Somewhat related question… what does anyone who knows this kind of research think about taking dhea supplements?
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MTL_t3k t1_itzttwk wrote
Not surprised to see research on intermittant fasting, keto's slightly less idiotic diet fad cousin, on r/science.
Notably, one of the 'IF' strategies, labeled 'TRE', or time-restricted eating, goes by another name in most parts of the world: Eating.
Potential_Limit_9123 t1_iu0gw26 wrote
Bummer. I've been keto since 1/1/14 and started IF and long term fasting about 1.5 years late. I wonder, when does this stop being a "fad"?
Even when I started keto, I ate 5+ meals/snacks a day, as that's what we're taught to do. When I started fasting, I initially tried butter in my coffee, then skipped lunch. Then I tried skipping breakfast. That was 5+ years ago, and I haven't eaten breakfast unless we're on vacation since then.
I typically eat two meals a day. When I fast lately, I fast about 32 hours, exercise about 1-2 hours, then eat a few hours later. Eating 2-3+ hours after exercise is my normal now.
MTL_t3k t1_iu0r7un wrote
No one cares what you were 'taught' by some idiot on youtube.
Effect of a plant-based, low-fat diet versus an animal-based, ketogenic diet on ad libitum energy intake
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-01209-1
This was a short-term dietary ward experiment. Even though the keto diet groups lost ~0.7 lb more weight (Fig 2g), they lost ~1.5 lb more lean mass (Fig 2h) and ended up with ~1 lb more fat mass relative to the low-fat diet groups (Fig 2i). The keto diet groups did worse across the board in terms of health bio-markers. Basically keto resulted in significantly higher cholesterol, reduced insulin sensitivity, higher uric acid, impaired thyroid function and being skinny-fat. And all of that in less than a month. No wonder the idiots who advocate for it also advocate starving to try to compensate.
Ketogenic Diets and Chronic Disease: Weighing the Benefits Against the Riskshttps://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnut.2021.702802/
"Given often-temporary improvements, unfavorable effects on dietary intake, and inadequate data demonstrating long-term safety, for most individuals, the risks of ketogenic diets may outweigh the benefits."
Regarding keto, there is literally no legitimate research showing long-term health benefits from following this idiotic eating pattern, and what little research there is suggests it can be harmful long-term. That is why no professional nutrition or dietetics association recommends it, and most actially caution against it.
Regarding intermittant fasting, as noted in the previous comment, the most common form is eating within an eight hour window, or what is known in most parts of the world as regular eating. Presumably, calling it by some other name adds some element of novelty to the research.
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Sorrow_cutter t1_iu2gy3m wrote
We call it skipping breakfast.
MTL_t3k t1_iu2oins wrote
No need to even skip breakfast. Have breakfast at 10 AM and dinner at 6PM and you are IF'ing, or, as we commomers like to call it, eating .
Even the researchers are admitting that their research is useless. From the article:
"No changes were observed in the level of estradiol, estrone and progesterone in post-menoapusal women after the eight-week regimen.
Speaking to the utility of the data, Varady said, “I think this is a great first step. We’ve observed thousands of pre- and post-menopausal women through different alternate-day fasting and time-restricted eating strategies.”
“All it’s doing is making people eat less. By shortening that eating window, you’re just naturally cutting calories. Much of the negative information on IF reported has come from studies on mice or rats. We need more studies to look at the effects of intermittent fasting on humans,” she concluded."
There are a lot more effective ways to consume less calories than starving oneself. One could consume an abundance of whole plant-foods (other than a few high fat ones like nuts, seeds, avocados) that would be calorically dilute yet satiating. Of course, one cannot do that on the idiotic keto diet, which is why its adherents resort to intermittant starvation.
fuckmeuntilicecream t1_itzami7 wrote
A new study has investigated how an eight-week intermittent fasting (IF) regimen affects the levels of circulating hormones in pre- and post-menopausal women.1
Intermittent fasting and health IF has gained traction over recent years as an eating approach for fat mass loss and to protect against diseases such as Alzheimer’s disease, arthritis and multiple sclerosis (MS).
Fasting has likely been practiced by humans for thousands of years, due to its roots in ancient cultures and religious groups. Scientists exploring the effects of calorie restriction in mouse models during the early 20th century paved the way for the highly productive research field we see today.
What is IF? IF is an umbrella term referring to diets that involve restricting food consumption for specific periods of time, which varies depending on the regimen adopted. Example regimens include:
5:2 fasting – where a normal diet is consumed five days of the week, and two days are spent fasting.
Alternate-day fasting – where a normal diet is consumed one day, followed by a complete fast or restricted calories the following day.
Time-restricted eating (TRE) – where a normal diet is consumed within a specific timeframe, such as 12pm–8pm. No food is consumed outside of that time period.
The effects of IF continue to be explored in human subjects, but initial concerns have emerged regarding its impact on reproductive health. “Some women are skeptical about IF because they believe it may negatively affect levels of estrogen and other reproductive hormones, leading to menstrual cycle irregularities and fertility issues,” Dr. Sofia Cienfuegos, a postdoctoral research fellow at the University of Illinois (UIC), Chicago, and colleagues wrote in a 2022 review on IF. A 2013 study, which uncovered an adverse effect of IF on young rat models’ reproductive health, is likely the root of this skepticism, the review authors suggest. However, the rats used in the experiment were three months old, corresponding to a human age of nine years; therefore, the data cannot be translated into how IF might impact hormone levels in adult females.
Exploring how eight weeks of IF impacts hormone levels Cienfuegos is the co-author of a new paper published by UIC researchers in the journal Obesity. In this study, researchers led by Dr. Krista Varady, professor of nutrition at UIC and IF expert, explored how eight weeks of TRE affected the levels of sex hormones in a group of 12 pre-menopausal and 11 post-menopausal women, compared to a control group.
The TRE regimen followed by the women in the study is referred to as the “warrior diet”. It involves eating food (without calorie counting) within a four-hour window each day. A water fast is then adopted until the following day.
Blood samples and weight measurements were obtained from all participants at baseline and after the eight-week regimen. The researchers analyzed the blood samples to obtain measurements of sex hormone binding globulin (SHBG) and dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA). Levels of estradiol, estrone and progesterone were measured only in post-menopausal females, as the level of these hormones circulating throughout the body can vary during pre-menopausal women’s menstrual cycle.
A guide to SHBG and DHEA
Sex hormone binding globulin (SHBG)
Is a protein produced by the liver that binds to the reproductive hormones estrogen, dihydrotestosterone (DHT) and testosterone, transporting them around the body.
Dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA)
A hormone that supports the production of other hormones, such as estrogen and testosterone. DHEA might be prescribed by fertility clinics to enhance the function of the ovaries and egg quality.
A reduction in DHEA, but not SHBG Women undergoing the “warrior diet” regimen lost between three and four percent of their baseline weight. In contrast, there was effectively no weight loss observed in the control group.
When analyzing hormone levels, Varady and colleagues discovered that SHBG levels did not change throughout the course of the study in either group. Levels of DHEA, however, were significantly lower in pre- and post-menopausal women after eight weeks of TRE, reducing by ~14%.
“This suggests that in pre-menopausal women, the minor drop in DHEA levels has to be weighed against the proven fertility benefits of lower body mass,” Varady said. “The drop in DHEA levels in post-menopausal women could be concerning because menopause already causes a dramatic drop in estrogen, and DHEA is a primary component of estrogen. However, a survey of the participants reported no negative side effects associated with low estrogen post-menopause, such as sexual dysfunction or skin changes.”