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smoovebb t1_isboao9 wrote

Woke != reality at all. That's the problem. Woke tends in indicate virtue signaling at the cost of reality. Look at the media that is considered woke aka Netflix. One person of each gender/race in every show does not at all reflect reality.

Look at the cultural gender concept in the woke world that suggests men and women are no different. This is not reality and is in direct opposition to science. There are biological differences in the brain, much less the bodies.

The trickiest question of all: what if racism isn't the only cause of unequal outcomes in different racial groups? What if group x needs treatment beyond equality to have equal outcomes? If so, would that be desirable at the level of society and laws? These questions can not even be investigated, much less addressed, because the left is just as anti science as the right - woke being a huge example.

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melleb t1_isbrz0x wrote

I love the idea that fictional content is fine except when characters are diverse. Dragons and elves? Fine. Black elf? Well now you’ve gone too far…

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Maldevinine t1_iscji8i wrote

Internal Consistency and the Suspension of Disbelief.

These are major issues within the fantasy writing sphere, because you're trying to get people to believe something that is inherently unbelievable. A large part of getting people to suspend disbelief over the fantastical things is ensuring that all the normal things behave in exactly the way that the responders to the artwork expect.

And people are not just randomly black. It's the result of evolutionary selection for specific traits over long periods of time. So if all the elves are black, well that's just black elves. If one elf is black, what's different about this one? Where's the rest of their family? What historical differences are there? If you don't at least acknowledge that (Like Shakespeare did in Othello) you've just put a crack in the suspension of disbelief.

That is of course putting aside the novel context, where JRR Tolkien explicitly described the elves as white. Not just a bit white, full on 'albino covered in white paint' white.

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smoovebb t1_isbvin9 wrote

That's stuff is hilarious - no need to worry about reflecting reality when it's elves. Go for it!

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